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Are you insinuating thepundit is a liar?

I read that all the way through but the bit I've highlighted in red, is just so wrong.

Whit's this doing doon here? Bump

I think that both Aberdeen & Hearts have good reason for optimism this season

It is. The only reason I haven't placed a bet, is because I never win bets. I suppose I should actually bet on No

Fkg brilliant and with the state celtic appear to be in, I'm well looking forward to this season.

There were lots of ways to define who should be given the vote. I think in the end, they just opted for the easiest and cheapest. Looking at it now, I'm of the opinion that there perhaps should have been a minimum residency period - say 10yrs - applied to those not born in Scotland. It does seem strange that someone just here for a couple of college terms, short work contract or otherwise here on a short term basis, should have a say on an issue with such long term consequences for the Country.

HIBEES!

Someone on another thread said it was a Celtic youth team today. Anyone actually know what the starting line-ups were? ETA:- Just saw post by 'hoopy1967'

WTF! Cover blown, knows fk all.

...and you sir, will look back on all of this - in less than 2x years time - with great shame, regardless of the outcome on the 18th. Call this a slur if you will but I rarely have false visions.

Apparently, it's because we'll have ''the best of both worlds''.

It moved briefly to The Scottish Indy section - the ''What happens after a No'' thread -

I reckon once anyone has left their family home, they should already be too mature to be a Rangers fan.

Goyathlay (Geronimo) is my favourite.

Cheers, I just spotted that on the cup thread.

Who did Hibs get?

Whit! What century did this take place in?

So where do the Rangers fans post? I think I'll open a thread and see what happens. It's too big an issue for apathy. Well, I stand astounded Youngsy, that is probably the most reasonable post I've seen from you. I confess that I may have got you mixed up with Bendarroch though, maybe I'm an ageist I would doubt your opinion in last sentence btw but we shall see.

There's a thread in the Indy forum where posters have been listing polls conducted on the subject, from all clubs' various supporters sites/forums. Rangers' ranged 80-95%. The P&B bears are almost to a man voting no. Tedi has declared undecided, I think Bennett has said he's a yes and as far as I'm aware only 2x others on here have declared themselves as yes voters. I think you'l find it to be a widely held view that most of your club's support are in the no camp but strangely enough very few of them want to discuss their reasons. As I remember, you are also a confirmed no voter. Perhaps we should start an Indy poll thread in this section and see how it turns out. Fancy hazarding a guess at the outcome?

If you read the post properly, you will (should) see the relevance to this topic. Aye and Gorillas are just incapable of informed debate

That didn't answer the question. I am glad to see that you are taking time to deliberate over what is indeed an important decision and commend you for it but my point is, that some common denominator appears to exist in your fans group that is pulling people from all social levels, to take one side of a particular debate. What can it be? ETA:- Answer welcome from any Rangers fan, not specifically aimed at Tedi.

I didn't say it was acceptable, just not sectarian.

By all reports, the vast majority of Rangers fans seem intent on voting no at the Indy Ref. It is the only club in the Country to have such an overwhelming support for no. Now generally, when an exceptionally large portion of a particular - non political - group in society are shown to share a particular political view, it can be assumed that they see the converse view as being damaging/threatening to the well being/existence of the group. Let's take the shipyard workers for example, they are being encouraged to vote no in this ref by their Union leaders, who in turn have been convinced by the Labour Party - in representation of the Better Together campaign - that a Yes vote will be damaging to the industry and therefor their livelihoods. Can anyone explain what unites such a large economically and socially diverse group (Rangers support) in feeling fear and under threat from their home Nation's independence?

Different thing entirely. You can't turn a group of football fans' singing bad things about another group of football fans into an 'ism'. When Dundee fans sign about Arabs, it's not racial. They are not actually singing about the people of Saudi and Kuwait etc.