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Potentially they could also lay track on the old north deeside route, and link Peterculter to Westhill, and form a big loop connecting Union Square > RGU > Cults > Bieldside > Milltimber > Peterculter > Westhill > Kingsford> Prime 4 > Kingswells > Dyce > Bucksburn > Northfield > Tillydrone > UoA > Kittybrewster. I think it would likely have to be an electrified route however. It also seems a bit too forward thinking for the city of Aberdeen.

Milne did an interview yesterday stating that assuming that Holyrood okays it quickly and any legal challenges are dealt with quickly, work on phase 1 (training facilities) could begin in the summer with a view to being finished by summer '19. The Stadium itself, I would think summer '21 is a more realistic target.

I'm sure there was a post about this already?

Aye in FIFA maybe you deluded *** c**t.

I'm not so sure about the Scotland national team, but perhaps we can persuade Celtic to do that? I think it would also be well worth the considerable cost to lift Ibrox brick by brick and place it in Belfast. I'd quite happily contribute £20 towards it.

Seperated by 1096 km, and 565 years. Excellent work.

According to google maps Kingsford is 5.9 miles from Union St and Leuchars is 8 miles from Dundee CC. If a 36% increase in distance isn't significant I would like to hear your definition of significant. The far end of Broughty Ferry (for example Balmossie train station), is 5.7 miles from Dundee city centre. Given that a large population lies on or near the main route from Union St to Kingsford, and a negligible population lies between Dundee and Leuchars, then yes, your example is misrepresentative.

That's a glib comparison for a couple of reasons. Leuchars is significantly further from Dundee city centre than Kingsford is from Aberdeen city centre. Furthermore it is located entirely out in the countryside. A far more appropriate comparison would be moving Tannadice to the far end of Broughty Ferry.

I was just about to make a post about any future drop in attendance, and your post proves my point perfectly. As far as I can tell, the Dons support is clearly pro-Kingsford, and all the pro-Kingsford fans will clearly continue to make their way to watch the dons. The anti-Kingsford lot will nae doubt be split into two groups. The first of those are those who disagree with the new stadium but continue to go to games through loyalty or habit, or when they come to realise it isn't actually that bad. The other (hopefully far smaller group) are the bitter old mannies, who will stop going to see the dons out of spite. Those c***s can sit in their favourite pre-match boozer and watch Sky Sports for all I give a f**k. Hopefully we more than make up for them with additional fans travelling in from Aberdeenshire and further afield, and whole families to whom a day at the football is now a far more attractive proposition.

A further point on Coventry City that hasn't already been made, Coventry spent the first 49 years of their existence in the lower divisions of English football. They then spent 33 years in the top flight, before being demoted in 2001; four years before they moved to the Ricoh Arena. Aberdeen were promoted to the top flight in 1904; the second year of our existence. We have never been relegated since. There is absolutely no parallel between the clubs, nor any relationship between Coventry's demotion, and their move to the Ricoh Arena causal or correlative.

Actually it is fully within the city boundary to the far west, and given Pittodrie is nearly as far east as one can go in Aberdeen, "the other side of the city" is axiomatic.

I think the vast majority of Dons fans who are pro-Kingsford are simply realists who realise it really is our only option. I'm sure we'd all prefer to stay at Pittodrie, but we can't, and Kingsford is the only other option. For the sake of you having to actually read this/any other thread instead of just repeating arguments that have no merit: 1. King's Links is not for sale. 2. Pittodrie cannot be redeveloped without drastically cutting capacity.

Four caps according to wiki. Started well at Livingston iirc, then moved south and fell away to shite as per usual. Then came to us and was still shite. He seemed a bit better than that at the time given the torrid nature of our defence back then.

The exact quote from McInnes was: "If something comes up that's available, that's affordable first and foremost to us, that we think can help us with the aims and objectives for the rest of the season, then I would certainly ask the question. I think it'd be very unlikely for us to do anything in January because it is a difficult month to bring that level of player to your club." Think that gives it a different feel from the above quote tbh.

That's because we despise your club, its fans, and everything you stand for.

He can play anywhere behind the striker afaik, but more central. Check out his free kick vs der ***.

I think that would be best provided it's a decent standard; i.e. in this league. Then in the summer they need to get the boy in doing some damn squats, he's far too lightweight.

There will be money, I have no idea where you heard McInnes saying there isn't, but he'll no doubt be being coy about it. Plus I'd imagine if we sell McLean he'll get all of that transfer fee. I wouldn't be disappointed to see us go for McGeouch; I think he'd provide the energy we miss in there when Shinnie plays left back. I'm assuming Nwakali will be a starter, but if we take in a decent fee for McLean I think we'll try for Docherty as well.

[1] I'm glad you accept that the basis of my assumption has the same level of fact to back it up as every post made by yourself and everyone else in this thread; be it for or against. [2] "Best case" can be a range of figures [3] John and Shirley perform work, and further the business goals of their employer. In return they receive money, a portion of which goes to the government which Theresa May uses to limit our internet freedom. A further portion of which goes to ACC, which Willie Young pockets. More still goes to landlords, energy companies, first bus etc. Some of the left over money might fund a trip to a pub or local restaurant. Some might even make its way into a savings account. Every single aspect of a salary fuels the economy, from receiving it, down to every little way in which it is distributed. That's why a country's wealth is measure in Gross Domestic Product, not Total Disposable Income. [4] While I accept your premise that not everyone moving into these flats will be from outside the city, I don't accept you conclusion that this isn't a fair trade off. There is a quite evident and strong relationship between the construction industry and economic growth, as a two minute google shows (1). [5] The indicators are clear from AFC because in its current state, they believe redevelopment of Pittodrie, and the land on which it lies to be unfeasible. If the council gave them the option to redevelop and it made financial sense, of course AFC would stay where they are. [6] I don't know, I'm not a member of the AFC board. [7,8] It's not a matter of whether they should or they shouldn't, it's a matter of whether they felt there would be an economic benefit to AFC remaining at Pittodrie, then it would make sense to. ACC clearly don't think there would be an economic benefit to AFC staying put, and thus haven't worked with the club to find ways to remain at the current site. Hence why I suspect ACC would rather have houses on the site.

Based on the apparent evidence of this thread that a large portion of Aberdeen fans are more interested in being able to drink before and after games, than the game itself. It's not AFC's responsibility to put up that money. Of course if they fund an analysis then it's going to present the best case scenario; every business would do this. It's up to ACC whether they accept this analysis. The regeneration of a city centre is about adding value 24/7, renovating Pittodrie would perhaps prevent the loss of some revenue for an afternoon every second week for 10 months of the year. Moving the club to Kingsford would open up the space for...400-500 households (pure guesstimate comparing the flats around the south and Merkland)? With an average household income of £23,000 (1), that's in the region of £9m -£10m to the economy, the council will likely be happy with that trade. If they were desperate to keep the club in the city centre, they could do a whole lot more to help keep us there. Things such as closing off the bottom of Pittodrie St could allow the ground to be rotated 90°, and they'd help with funding also. They clearly aren't fussed though.

There will be people such as myself who will head to the ground early to go to the supporters bar. Frankly I'd rather give my money to the club. Although I'll still be going into town afterwards, as will most, so the loss of revenue still wont be too severe. Besides, we live in a capitalist world. It's up to the city centre businesses to address this issue themselves.

Those who walk or are travelling on public transport will still most likely have to go into the city centre first though, hence they wont have included it. They'll continue to have their breakfast and pints beforehand, and continue to go back into town after the game to have more pints, dinner etc. The city centre will lose an hour before the game and an hour after from most people on public transport.

If he's willing to take an 85% pay cut we might have a chance of signing him. Even then, I think McInnes might play him at left back instead of Shinnie.

If we could learn to beat bang average central asian teams first, I'd be happy personally.

Nobody is saying they haven't.