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8 hours ago, PossilYM said:
They blew it big time
Any other team losing ONE game throughout their entire League season would hardly be described as blowing it would they ?
They dropped points in the run in when as has been previously suggested ( after they beat Abbey Vale 3-0 )it seemed to allow the Maryfield Park side to play with a more care free manner in that the knew their chance was gone ! Castle Cary is a difficult place to go at the best of times and a well drilled Ferry outfit are hard to beat at home on a tight , bumpy surface however you have to consider the huge bonus of Vales last SEVEN games all being at home , therefore maximising player availability and limited travelling times for their lads whilst the early mid week kick offs etc put pressure on the opposition having their own best teams available for the matches. Personally I felt Vales goal scoring ability was ke5 to getting them over the line as they won all their remaining League games comfortably enough.
it’s harsh to knock Creetown for an otherwise excellent season and I for one applaud them on their best campaign for man6 , many a year
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On 14/04/2023 at 20:44, HorseyGhirl said:
The concern is that there are clubs who vote yes primarily to stop numbers decreasing to where the league possibly becomes unviable. This club only started in 2020 and have no roots in any community. A bit like the podcast team they have a strong media presence.
Of course I could be wrong, but first question I would ask would be; why as a Glasgow based club are they not applying for the WOS League?
That’s the first question the Club asked !
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15 minutes ago, Jamie92 said:Looking forward to it, if creetown win it’s their title. If Lochar win then it will go to the last game
Lochar will hate dropping points against uppers last Wednesday then 
Good to see Newton and Nithsdale go for a cup run as well. Newton are a good side when they are at full strength. It’s been inconsistency with players unavailable due to work, injuries that’s hampered them.
The side I believe have W9 D1 L1 in the League ( as good as anyone ) since the turn of the year even without a fair few guaranteed starters this last few weeks and it surely augurs well for next term ! Get these lads fully fit again and the young lads they introduced have a Season under they belt now as well so a bright future for them hopefully.
Still Creetown's to lose this year and if they get over that line all the very best to our neighbours in any play off as they’ll fully deserve their chance after an impressive campaign
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6 hours ago, HorseyGhirl said:
Can I suggest that fans of each club insist their committees do due diligence and find out why this club feels their place is in the South League as opposed to the West.
They may well be genuine but be certain about it before letting them in.
I believe the question was asked by our Club and no reply was forthcoming from the apparent applicants
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On 13/04/2023 at 14:50, FuzzyBear said:
Linlithgow beat St Cuthberts 9-0 in the Scottish this season.
A far poorer Saints side than last Seasons Champions with a virtually entirely new Team full stop
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On 10/04/2023 at 23:25, newcastle broon said:
Beith could easily groundshare wi a licensed club.
After all a Glasgow club was allowed to groundshare in Alloa.
Probs won't happen but nothing to stop them doing it.
Surely it’s Beith who have to have the Licence not the home Club they’d ‘potentially’ share with ?
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On 10/04/2023 at 23:14, andy25 said:
Linlithgow will annalilate Creetown over 2 games.
Don’t be quite to sure Andy ! They’ve only lost 8 goals all Season and remember Linlithgow only beat Saints 3-2 last year and Creetown's defence is way better than theirs was ! They’ll keep it tight and compact and make themselves very hard to break down especially at home I’m sure as we’ve seen all season down here.
A huge ask undoubtedly but it’s not beyond the lads to at least surprise a fair few who regularly knock the South !
Good luck to them in the play off if they indeed win the South for the first time
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On 16/02/2023 at 19:58, HorseyGhirl said:
Agree in no way is SOS blocking any aspect of the pyramid in an earlier post stated that SOS wasn't a Tier 6, I was annoyed at something or someone, I was wrong and apologised.
To be fair neither club is doing anything wrong, as both Leagues state in their constitution they cover the West of our wee nation.
For me that is the main problem, having 2 Leagues claiming same geographical area.
I live in the Stewartry, but hail from Glasgow Southside via North Lanarkshire and come from a Junior family, so am fully aware of the superiority complex indicative of a lot of these Junior supporters. First came here to work at the Dundrennan Ranges in early 90's and went to St.Marys regularly. This season have seen and enjoyed the games Threave have played in the new 4th Div. I must be honest, the teams at the top of this Div are better than the South teams I have seen play. That can be said about the different tier 5 Leagues, tier 6, tier 7 and so on.
But that doesn't justify this proclamation that SOS or any league should self demote or promote itself.
Threave have their reasons for moving and personally I think it was right for them at this time having spoken with a few of the committee. If they miss out on promotion then who knows what they will do.
My issue is not about the SOS dropping, I feel rightly or wrongly that as a whole they aren't fully engaged in the pyramid, which if true is disappointing.
It's good to hear from a south supporter. If you can manage it get yourself along to St.Marys on 3rd Mar for Alba Cup Final. Lochar v Creetown I'll be there if the wife allows.
Intending to head along to the Alba Cup Final myself hopefully
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On 16/02/2023 at 07:11, HorseyGhirl said:
Yep, it's the clubs that will decide or as you say an association.
Doesn't mean we as supporters can't have opinions or friendly debates/disagreements. Only disappointing element is that there are no contributors from any other supporters of SOS clubs. Would be good to hear others views especially on Threave's departure and the Wellington application.
But heh ho such is life.
Anyways enjoy football and I'm sure we'll cross paths on the future.
Threaves decision would probably be it would appear to others in the South simply to integrate into the West before any potential amalgamation in the future ! They’ll invest season on season and hope to gradually climb through the West Tiers until they find their level imo.
As for Glasgow Wellington you have to imagine bypassing Tiers 10-7 would have to be the obvious thought process from them and how accommodating the South will be to that situation may well depend on Dalbeattie’s possible demotion back to our League !
it’s actually good to see a competitive League for once in our region and may the best team win
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On 14/02/2023 at 09:54, newcastle broon said:
Well I like to read the input on here most weeks.
Is there just 3 licensed clubs thst are able for promotion from the South?
That’s correct at the moment although as you’ll have seen Mids have installed a new seated area which may signify their intentions ! Likewise Creetown had indicated their ambitions to go down that route too , time will tell for both and good luck to them
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On 28/10/2022 at 09:14, HorseyGhirl said:
This highlights in big shiny neon lights why the anomaly of the WOS and SOS covering the same geographical area needs sorting now.
I remember when West was set up the boundaries were clearly defined between East and West, where SOS not involved.
How is it credible that a newly registered senior team can go straight in at Tier 6.
Our pyramid system is not well, the Leagues need to sit down and sort out the South.
I watch South teams and there is no way any of them are Tier 6 quality.
Not even close.
#getirsorted
And you reckon the East was prior to the Junior invasion when it was struggling with 13 Teams ???
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On 03/07/2022 at 12:22, Bestsinceslicebread said:
Reading this thread and also looking back at my own input there are a lot of people going off on one due to their affiliation of club/league etc... or their area of choice and thus taking it personally.
I'm more interested in the future of the pyramid and the smooth running of it.
If it was the WOSFL region who was weak and the EOSFL and the SOSFL were the strongest I'd be of the same attitude of the WestI personally don't think the SOSFL should be at tier 6 as it will slow down the progress of the pyramid if the SOSFL stay at tier 6 and the Lowland League open up their relegation policy
The whole point of my input is that I'm more concerned about when the relegation from Lowland League is sorted, meaning 2 automatic relegations and 3rd bottom going straight into a playoff.
I would like to see the WOSFL and EOSFL champions being promoted but I don't think the playoff should be between the bottom 3rd placed LL team and the SOSFL champions. Why, because I and a lot of people think the standard is low. Even if the standard was closer then it might be reconsidered but it hasn't and wont be for a long, long time and thus slowing down much stronger teams, leagues from producing stronger team replacing the 3rd bottom of the LL in a playoff.
For example , (again hypothetically)
2 automatic relegation from the Lowland league, Both East and West winners go up.
The 3rd bottom of the Lowland would play the SOSFL champion and id say 99% of people who follow football expect the 3rd bottom to win the playoff, easily as the difference is so vast.
If it was the 3rd bottom of the Lowland against the 3rd bottom of the EOSFL or the WOSFL, most people would think that the 2nd placed team would win, that's how much a divide there is in those leagues.I will say, the SOSFL solution if workable isn't as important issue right now than the SPFL 2 and Lowland League sorting their relegation and promotion issues right now.
P.s. there are so many issues that need sorted if there were to be changed.
Would the WOSFL vote to have the SOSFL at tier 7?. Is tier 7 the right level for the SOSFL ?, Do the SOSFL committee think this is a great idea ?.
The SOSFL are at tier 6 rightfully because they got in there first but who says it works or who says it wont be part of the slowing down progression of the Scottish Football pyramid system.The only compromise I can think of that would work, keeping the SOSFL where they are would be that the 2 automatic places go to EOSFL and WOSFL winners and the playoff would be a four club semis, or playoff of the 3rd placed Lowland League team, the SOSFL champions and both 2nd placed teams of both EOSFL and the WOSFL. I think that would keep most happy and the integrity of the pyramid system
Personally I’d say your proposed option is one , should it ever be on the table that the South should realistically consider as that way the East and West Champions would get their spot and the winner here would still at least have the opportunity of promotion however slim that may seem to some !
You’re also correct in that the SPFL and LL are the real problem for ambitious former Junior sides as they are the ones stifling the chance of these sides moving up the Pyramid and not whether they can beat the South winners in the playoffs. If and hopefully when they alter the promotion slots I can assure you that those down here would whole heartedly support that change and allow a much needed change of teams throughout the SPFL and completely freshen up senior football throughout Scotland.
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49 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:
Representing less than 20 clubs at any one time there's the SoSFL, SCFA, WDFA, presence on the SFA's Non-Professional Game Board & SCC competition committee, the quarterly meetings of the lowland pyramid leagues, the SFA's PWG and at times overlap between South committee members and the Lowland League. For instance not sure if the South & Lowland treasurer is the same these days.
So now you’d prefer we have no representation either !
As I stated early it took the Juniors how long to decide to jump on the senior bandwagon , a Century maybe and within 10 minutes they’re calling the shots ! We understand the disparity in playing levels but as he been stated many times if our sub standard League offers no threat to the former Junior big guns in the West and East making the LL what difference does it make to give the champions the opportunity they’re earned ? It’s not the fault of the South the way the p,st off situation has been decided is it ?
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22 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:
As shown by letting Threave Rovers leaving without kicking up a fuss. The SoSFL don't seem that bothered and happy plodding along as it has always done.
What good would kicking up a fuss have done ?
This was Threave’s decision to leave and the WOSFLs choice to let them in so what do you think anyone in the South could’ve done to prevent this ?
I suggest you point your finger of blame in the direction of both parties in this situation !
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34 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
It's a yardstick that follows an established pattern for the last few seasons in the South Challenge Cup.
As for the ex-Junior dig, nobody is calling the shots. We're just a few people on a forum debating it (and well before Juniors moved Senior). However, I think most people recognise that if the pyramid is being reviewed (and it is apparently via PWG), then the SoS tier 6 situation should be looked at.
Is your club looking to achieve promotion to the LL?
You know me David and I’ll always be honest and say that it would be incredibly difficult due to our geographical location and the obvious difficulties of getting lads off work early to make midweek matches in the Central belt etc.
How many of the members teams in the East and West realistically have ambitions of LL football , I’d assume very few but I appreciate the situation and we’ll take things as they come regardless
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On 31/05/2022 at 22:32, Burnieman said:
I used to have a lot of sympathy for the SoS, and to be fair they shouldn't be "bullied" into anything they don't want to do. However, can they really be honest with themselves and think they should still retain a place at tier 6? Champions soundly beaten in the Play-offs and Nithsdale suffering a double digit defeat against Drumchapel.
What were the reasons Threave Rovers left? they clearly see a better future in the WoS.
There are two solutions to this as far as I can see. The SoS join up with the WoS at the lowest level (maybe WoS regionalising that level) or all clubs join the WoS and the SoS is wound up, perhaps just overseeing a couple of regional cups instead.
Of course none of this effects SFA Licencing.
Champions beaten 3-1 by a Darvel side we’ll all agree was assembled at a vast expense compared to virtually every non league club in the Country never mind the limited finance available in the South and to use the Nithsdale result when they had multiple suspensions of key players ( self inflicted admittedly ) is hardly the best yardstick to chose is it ? You’d have to ask Threave why they made this decision as no one locally seems to see the benefits but that’s their choice.
A merger is possible I’d say imo in the future but as has been said many times the South at Tier 6 u,Tim’s tell holds no one back does it ? It’s very convenient again imo for all the former Junior teams to jump on board , assume they can call the shots and dictate how things work when for a Century they had no interest whatsoever until Kelty showed them the grass might just be greener on the other side ! No one denies the obvious difference in standard but what does moving the SoS in terms of tiers do to help any ambitious teams out there when we apparently represent a very small obstacle
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4 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:
As people pointed out for years the ground criteria isn't an impossible task. The bar is set fairly low.
I may be wrong but when Bonnyton left the South last year there certainly wasn’t a Stand which is a requisite requirement and not ever any covered area whatsoever unless they’ve added these things in the last few months !
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1 hour ago, Pyramid Watcher said:
I believe Newton Stewart may also be on the move.
Definitely not
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On 29/04/2022 at 20:11, kevsmart said:
Gretna put a tweet out saying if they were to be relegated they would go to the SOSFL, so there would be a licenced club even if Threave and St Cuthberts move to the WOSFL
Newton Stewart and Wigtown are also Licensed
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28 minutes ago, groundhopper2000 said:Tweedie Cup
Lochmaben 0 Newton Stewart 3
Attendance 96Whitehills parkApril 9th 2022 2pm Kick Off
Brilliant photo’s as always Stephen and a great win for the visitors
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Got the Newton score right and in fairness almost all the winners correct
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As the page has been fairly quiet of late does anyone want to hazard a guess at the scores for this Saturday ? Are there any shocks on the cards , which of the local sides will make it to Round 3 and how will the South fixtures go ?
Weekend Fixtures
Soccer Shop Challenge Cup 2nd Round
Dunipace v Mid Annandale
Forth Wanderers v Threave Rovers
Haddington Athletic v Abbey Vale
Lochmaben v Kirkcaldy & Dysart
Newton Stewart v Yoker Athletic
St Cuthbert Wanderers v Tynecastle
Upper Annandale v Berwick Rangers
Vale of Leithen v Heston Rovers
South of Scotland League
Caledonian Braves v Stranraer SOS
Creetown v Nithsdale Wanderers
Lochar Thistle v Wigtown & Bladnoch
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4 minutes ago, South fan 2 said:
I take it the league is definitely starting. I thought the government would have stopped all non league for a couple of weeks.
Starts this weekend and they appear to have used a degree of common sense which is rare for them and not included areas where the case numbers are still relatively low
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12 hours ago, PearceDuff CF said:
Utter shambles .
The spread of this pandemic is obviously no concern to the South Of Scotland Football League .
Still a concern to everyone down here obviously however your vitally important opinion is duly noted
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