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28 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:
That's Bonnyton Thistle applying to the WoSFL.
Can’t actually say this has come as a surprise to anyone in the South as it makes complete logistical sense for them ! They’re a decent young team who I’m sure will progress given the exposure the new West League will have and all the best to them , a big step but I’m sure everyone in the South applauds their move. Time will tell if the SoSL ultimately will become part of the West through time in a regionalised sense but until that point I’m sure the remainin* teams are happy where they are
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2 hours ago, San Starko Rover said:
I’ve stated a few pages back that I think the SOSFL and WOSFL should be merged but as long as we have a separate SOSFL they should be treated equally to the EOSFL and WOSFL. They either merit the place or they don’t. The same as the LL and HL are equal.You’ve ever so slightly changed your tune ! A few days ago the South didn’t merit its status now they should be treated equally ( potentially ) , very gracious SSR
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On 03/04/2020 at 12:00, Doonhamer1969 said:
It's true that they can access Ayrshire pretty quickly, but they would lose games at Creetown, Wigtown , Stranraer, Kirkcudbright etc, all within around 25 miles. Just cant see it.
Even Girvan, the nearest West club to them is 30 miles away, and thats not a great road.
Stranraer yes at the moment certainly ! Hold your horses with the rest
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On 02/04/2020 at 15:14, San Starko Rover said:
How does the SOS teams being part of the WOS provide a glass ceiling? They are in the South West of Scotland, if they covered the SOS they would include the East border teams, in reality they are a D&G league and they're not at tier 6 on merit they're at tier 6 because they bought in early to the pyramid. How many SOS teams are in the LL I count two one of which is based in Motherwell and I doubt will want to play in D&G league once the WOS is established if they're relegated. By all means leave them where they are but what scored do you think we'll see when Bo'ness and Talbot play the SOS champions, what was Kelty's score 7-0 & 4-0
What difference do you actually think the Tier level makes to anything realistically ? You don’t receive a bye in the Scottish Cup if you’re Licensed because your at Tier 6 , you don’t get any difference in SFA money so what is your issue here with the South ? Spell it out loud and clear so we all know what your problem with us is ?
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On 02/04/2020 at 13:26, San Starko Rover said:
I'd like to have seen the entire SOSFL apply for the confrence season of the WOSFL and the LL pyramid would be sorted within 1 season. Keeping the SOSFL at tier 6 makes no sense if their teams aren't strong enough to compete with the East and West champions, the SOSFL and WOSFL should be one league with the East v West playoff to go up, hopefully in the future it'll be both promoted. They can't have the argument the SOSFL has existed for X number of years so should just remain at tier 6 permanently when the WRJFA and ERJFA have ripped their leagues up to get the WOS and EOS sorted. Any ambitious SOSFL team should be joining the WOSFL as playing in a better league will help to improve them.
So you’re effectively saying they don’t deserve their current status , you firmly believe they are too weak to compete but you’re advocating they all jump into the WOSFL en masse and are in all probability comprehensively beaten on a regular basis by the better Junior sides ? Good thinking Batman and you’ll also expect everyone currently in the Senior ranks to just simply accept this point of view and be happy to do so now the Junior Clubs have at long last embraced the Pyramid ! I firmly believe this will happen and possibly sooner rather than later but to be told that’s the way it should in the blink of an eye isn't too appealing and you honestly think a long trip to the Glasgow area to take on one of the less famous names on a bleak Winters night is an appealingly carrot
for those perhaps not fancying almost 200 mile round trips anytime let alone potentially on a Wednesday ?
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On 02/04/2020 at 12:17, Marshmallo said:
Merge the South and West structures and let teams find their level within that. If they want to have a regional South league which covers a far smaller percentage of the population then that's fine. It shouldn't be at tier 6 though.
That’s your opinion and clearly appears irrelevant to the vast majority of other users but hey that’s what it’s all about - your voice , your choice , your opinions that you’re untitled to as is everyone else
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On 31/03/2020 at 21:29, Marshmallo said:
Three going down seems about right to me. The issue you have though is the SoS being ay tier 6 and producing champions miles off the level of the likes of Talbot or Bo'ness.
As has been stated many times during this topic you yet again assume that because the Juniors have finally and belatedly ( in some cases possibly reluctantly ) jumped on the bandwagon and have decided to join the Pyramid set up you somehow feel they can simply supersede and jump the queue in front of admittedly smaller Clubs who struggled for years to gain and keep meeting the License criteria against the odds in many cases ! These licensed teams in the South don’t have the financial muscle of your aforementioned Clubs and many , many others in the East and the new West but that doesn’t give anyone the right to overlook the incredible efforts from the respective teams trying to survive on average crowds and limited sponsorship in comparison and I for one as someone involved with such a Club feel they thoroughly deserve their opportunity to remain at Tier 6. What’s your real issue anyway because as you’re aware the chances of the SOSFL winners overcoming either the East or West in a play off are minimal at best if not borderline impossible but presumably you’d rather have multiple teams from the Central belt regions being given the opportunity to succeed at the expense of those that’s entire history lies in Senior football ?
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1 minute ago, FairWeatherFan said:
Thought there was one I was missing.
Believe it’s the oldest in the South ( I could be wrong )
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7 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:
Lowland: Scottish Cup, SCC, LL cup (+some other regional cups depending on members. Qualifying Cup, Southern Counties, Fife FA. Also top 4 compete in SPFL Challenge Cup and League champion/relegated Club 42 enter SPFL League Cup)
EoS: Scottish Cup for licence holders/Alex Jack Cup for unlicenced, SCC, Qualifying Cup (some qualify to the City Cup), League Cup, non-Premier teams in the King Cup. (+ for some Fife Cup.
SoS: Scottish Cup for licence holders/ Alba Cup for unlicenced. SCC, Southern Counties, League Cup, then there's Potts, Tweedie & Cree lodge cups but aren't contested every year necessarily.
Highland: Scottish Cup, League Cup then the North of Scotland Cup for those North of Scotland and the Aberdeenshire Cup & Aberdeenshire Shield for those in the Grampian area.
Add the Haig Gordon for the South and they are all played again now , started this season
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7 hours ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:
With Honestly United post made me think.
How many cups in general do the clubs compete in
The SOS league, The EOS league
The Lowland League
The Highland league and which ones interconnect ?Also regarding the south challenge cup do teams in the lowland participate in the South Challenge as well as the Main Scottish cup
In the South there is the Potts / Tweedie / Haig Gordon and Cree Lodge ( all local Cups ) then the League Cup , Alba Cup ( for non SFA members ) , Challenge Cup and South Region Challenge Cup ( open to LL / East and South ) then obviously the Licensed Clubs enter the Scottish Cup. The 4 local Cups had been played on a biannual basis ( 2 each Season ) in recent years but all were reinstated to the calendar this year as fewer games had been cancelled and reducing fixture back logs then Annan and now YMCA have dropped out creating some extra space for theses additional Cup fixtures !
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13 hours ago, morley said:
The LL/EOS may not actually be that bothered if only say 7 or 8 junior clubs actually follow through with their initial NOI and apply (not that they would publicly admit it). As to start with they may prefer clubs to be ones who have fully bought into the fresh start idea, want to move away from the junior grade culture, and fully commited to the senior/pyramid idea, rather than clubs who more reluctantly apply. Because unlike the EoS when it expanded you don't have that core base of original clubs to build around. Not that they will decline any junior club.
The SOSFL would always be an option to still join the Pyramid in the highly unlikely scenario there’s few enough applicants to create a new WOSFL in the Summer ! They’d immediately all be at Tier 6 with a realistic chance of League success and a play off against the East to secure a spot in the LL for 21/22
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9 hours ago, Hossy87 said:
All I can surmise from your post is that you're an idiot.
And a totally misinformed idiot at that Hossy87
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32 minutes ago, Robert James said:
Pretty conclusive tweets.
Will the SFA/ EoSL/ SoSL, have reps at the LL briefing meeting on Thursday ?
Surely !
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2 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said:6 minutes ago, AML67 said:Lochar Thistle and Heston Rovers are currently the only two Dumfries based teams and whilst the latter has been mentioned ( not by the Club ) they ground share Palmerston with Queen of the South and therefore don’t have first option on fixtures ! It’ll be interesting to see if any of the South sides are genuinely interested !
Ground share isn't necessarily an issue see Edinburgh City sharing with Spartans, BSC with Alloa, Stirling Uni with Stirling Albion & East Stirling with Falkirk (previously Stenhousmuir). The rules are the club higher up the system get first priority so some Friday night games will be played with a Sunday game now & again for the club lower down the system.
True although can’t see either looking at the potential step up or certainly no rumours to that effect in the South
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6 hours ago, no-brainer said:
Am I right in thinking that the South of Scotland League and West Juniors will fit in underneath the new/mooted tier 6 West of Scotland League?
Because I take it that the West of Scotland League will cover the entire west and south region in the same way that the tier 6+ East of Scotland League (debatably) covers the entire east region, with the Highland League covering (albeit at tier 5+) the north region?
So promotion to the Lowland League will come about through winning the West and East regional tier 6s, rather than a mishmash of South, West and East and possibly West Junior leagues all promoting into the Lowland League (since we know that the South isn't all that strong, and the juniors may deliberately not meet licencing criteria causing blockages, etc).
The SOSFL is already Tier 6 so it can’t ‘slot in’ below any potential new WOSFL , it’ll be on a par as will the EOSFL and as AsimButtHitsASix states all three will look to feed into the LL
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12 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:
Well there has been a poster in here saying some SoS clubs have put in a note of interest for the WoSFL. So they might well be popping along on Thursday.
Lochar Thistle and Heston Rovers are currently the only two Dumfries based teams and whilst the latter has been mentioned ( not by the Club ) they ground share Palmerston with Queen of the South and therefore don’t have first option on fixtures ! It’ll be interesting to see if any of the South sides are genuinely interested !
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5 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:
That would be one of the fairest ways to do it. The dumfries teams etc would slot well in with that bottom lot, i believe this is one of the proposals....What Dumfries Teams ? What do you know that others might not ICR ?
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1 minute ago, Marshmallo said:
In fairness I don't believe anyone can argue with this. You've nailed it. This is good for the WRJFA, actually, and anyone saying otherwise is wrong.
There’ll only ever be one winner in this situation and it won’t be the latter
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3 minutes ago, GordonS said:
The LL/ EOS couldn't possibly dominate the WOSFL. It'll be governed by its member clubs. The LL and EOS are just helping out getting it off the ground.
I meant the combined LL / EOSFL dominated a lot of the PWG meetings and consensus seemed to be a problem in terms of matching rules etc etc ......
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10 hours ago, cmontheloknow said:
Not in TAJ's view:
As I said I think their biggest fear was being the odd one out in the 3 and the other two being the clearly dominant force ! I was never in any doubt they’d back the proposal ultimately which I’m glad they have
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1 hour ago, morley said:
That could be key now that they are publicly in the loop and supporting, as before it was noticeable by their absence and potentially could have been a route for a west juniors proposal to enter the pyramid process via some kind of merger with the SoS league. It also means out of the 4 named parties in the current pyramid agreement into the Lowland League, you have 3 of the 4 named parties supporting this proposal with the Sfa as the 4th named party the only one which has to still agree.
They’ve backed the WOSFL proposal from the off ! It just may not have been common knowledge as they feared the dominance of a LL / EOSFL set up running the show therefore their commitment to the plan will hopefully see a more even balance in terms of working together and not appearing to be the lesser ‘voice’
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2 hours ago, cmontheloknow said:
Ronney was saying the SOS could block the LL plan. Sanity prevails, well done SOS!
That was always going to happen I can assure you
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9 hours ago, G4Mac said:
So the sosfl are going to block a move to create a wosfl by the league that they get promoted to and have worked with for a number of years, because they want to support the sjfa led non pyramid wosfl?
You surely cant believe.......you know what, never mind.
You can’t get promoted from Tier 6 to another Tier 6
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9 hours ago, Beenzon-Toste said:
What if the SOSL object to their league being weakened by the poaching of clubs?
They could block it.Won’t happen
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Junior football, what is the future?
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You point is .............. ? Hold on you’re waiting to knock the South .......... again , hahaha feel free no one will take an awful lot of notice but fill your boots