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Sorry Burning Barns, the D'Hondt system works on the basis that it is intended to redress the imbalance of MSPs versus share of the vote in the constituencies. It isn't intended to allow an imbalance of representation by giving voters the chance to artificially inflate representation by introducing "colt teams" to politics. I'd rather all MSPs were proportionately allocated on a regional basis, more accurately reflecting the views of the whole electorate. Hopefully that will be the case with independence.

I see his point, but it's more like no-one remembers who scored the winning goal in the cup final, but they do remember who loaded the kit onto the coach.

Exactly the same with my mother.

There's no bias, in each constiuency they do a simple calculation which is the change in percentage share of the vote from this election to the last election. They then look at the relative difference between the parties and divide it by two. So for Aberdeenshire East. I aklway think it's a relatively meaningless measure unless both votes have moved significantly. % % % 2021 2016 Change SNP 44.63 45.79 -1.16 Tory 40.02 28.99 11.03 Swing 0.5 x (11.03-(-1.16)) = 6.10% SNP to the Tories

That just doesn't hold water. I was a member of the SNP before the devolution settlement, before the SNP was the leading party in all elections, and beyond. After 1997, If you simply wanted to run a devolved government you had the option to join a unionist left, right or centrist (sic) party with that intent and hold that position. You joined the SNP because you believed that the Scottish people are best placed to make our own decisions. Until devolution, being in the SNP was like being at the base of a very tall mountain and you knew it was a difficult climb ahead. There is not one iota of doubt that Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP want independence and that is why the timing of a referendum is so important and why the Alba Party approach is flawed. Competence and timing are key here and Nicola Sturgeon is in top of both. As for Wings Over Scotland, I did for a period read the articles which to be fair were always very well written and chimed with my thinking. At some point it all went wrong, and the anti-Sturgeon line lacked substance, evidence or credibility. I hope that those still engaged will gradually come away from it. I believe we can win an independence referendum and build a Scotland with room for voices from all reasonable political and social positions.

Morecambe and Morecombe. Well, neither of them is Wise!

Exactly where they are today plus Berwick! I know the thread is humourous, but remember it was 40% for the SNP in the three constituencies and you don't need to go too far back to when most consitituencies across Scotland were polling below 20% for the SNP so the south is hardly a lost cause.

Ian Murray just said Anas Sarwar won as leader!!!!!!!

Doesn't make 9 They have 5 already.

No it's more likely 2 in Lothian and one each in the other two.

There's still, South, Mid Scotland and Lothian to come.

This isn't correct, an additional 8191 votes takes the SNP to 15373 from 14554, this isn't STV. Labour still wins at round 7.

Yes, they picked up two constituencies and the share of the list vote may not be high enough to sneak in on 7th.

Although not identical to their Westminster Constituencies, the nearest equivalent in the Scottish Parliament had the following results for the list. Does this de-legitmise their possition and should they resign and allow by elections?

Forecast for Central Scotland by prorating from the 5 constituencies with Regional List Votes declared.

Those are the list votes for the constituencies not FPTP.

Ok I've prorated all the parties votes for 9 seats and my initial inclination to ignore the SNP on the list looks to have been correct.

Yes but I was dividing the toatl vote for 5 constituencies by 10!!! I'll keep going anyway.

Yes but the share of the vote is what matters and the SNP total is creeping up with every constituency that is counted so at 45% the number still look good even when you divide by 10.

The Central Scotland numbers looks like on results to date the SNP picks up 2 additional members from the list!!!!! Both votes SNP might actually be working if the SNP gets above 45% on the list.

Tidied up the spreadsheet and putting in Central now.

Good spot Gordie, it looks like the SNP picks up at round 6!!!!! Sorry It's late and I'm rushing.

Updated List MSPs for Glasgow based on the 5 Glasgow results on Ballot Box Scotland

If that is replicated across Glasgow, Labour and the Greens will each pick up 3 list MSPs and the Tories 1 .

There must be a Brexit impact here looking at the transfer of votes c.f. 2016.