WellView

Incel podcast, 2018

James Scott, Barry McGuire, Shea Gordon and Adam Livingstone all signed one-year extensions on or around 21 June.

Changing the whole team at half time tells you it was ( quite rightly ) a training exercise. On the bright side, not one of the players named today gives me the fear. We've come a long way since that complete clusterfurk summer 2016.

Scott Leitch has known Wellview for forty years. Not a chance he'd be battering me but to be fair, he's always had a fair bit of snark about him. I loved the way he fronted up Tommy NcLean, another wee snark. McLean couldn't believe it when Scott told him to go eff himself and walked out of the club. McLean drove up to see him at his parent's house that night and was shown the door. Scott went amateur rather than let McLean bully him.

If you could quit being so up yourself I'll give you the answer - From a SFA contact - "Burrows didn't know the rules, he hadn't read the book." I even posted the SFA guys name and number on the other forum so ya'll could check. Next one - Do you not think it was hilarious that a couple of months after my taxi driver comment that Scott Leitch found himself in court? I wonder what the argument was about? It never occurred to you lot that I was trolling the furk out of him.

Your heid is right up Burrow's ass - can you answer this one re Leitch? Is it right enough we never got a fee as Burrows missed the offer date deadline and that made him a free transfer?

On the subject of transfer or development fees - did anyone notice the fee on the accounts for Robbie Leitch? Or is it right enough we never got a fee as Burrows missed the offer date deadline and that made him a free transfer?

Cadden is under 23 - all we need to do is offer him a contract on equal terms at the end of the season and we are guaranteed the development fee if he goes to a qualifying club, even if he doesn't sign the contract. The walloper here is you, as you don't know the transfer regulations involving players of his age bracket. Get an education about SPFL rules before you comment.

Wow, the business model of loaning players prior to potential transfer is being questioned on this board, Unbelievable stuff.

The reason is that we have spent years desperate for the money due to the appalling contract policy of our board under Leanne Dempster. Visonary for suggesting we lend players rather than outright sell them? That's a cracker. Pick up a loan fee for Cadden - lend him out to one of the interested club - put in a trigger clause. Nothing visionary about that, it's normal business.

The list of clubs that take players on loan and subsequently sign them is as long as your arm every year. It's a proven business model.

Normal practice, yes - as the bigger clubs tend to have the money to buy outright. They don't have the same risk-averse profile as clubs such as ours. It doesn't mean to say that it can't happen. You do often see clubs of the same stature lending to each other. And you also see players going on trial at bigger clubs. The fear factor for the smaller club is that their player fails at let's say, Cadden to Wigan, and the money they thought they would get for him never materializes. It's a question of bottle.

I agree - if he had the ability to beat a man he'd be some player, but he can't. The club seems to think they'll get at a minimum a £600,000 development fee ( I think ). I'd rather see him out of the club and have his first team squad place filled by David Turnbull, who looks to be more gifted.

Great idea - make the call and set it up. This is one thing I appreciate about my small-minded fellow Motherwell fans. Every single day during the transfer window they see players being sent out on loan who often subsequently go on to be sold for millions. It seems to be with our fans, the only clubs we can loan to are places like Stranraer and Dumbarton. The idea of lending our players to a Championship club, for example? Oh, no never. See, we're wee Motherwell, we're the wee working-class club as Burrows keeps telling us, and we should know our place. Totally beyond us to say to someone like Wigan in this case "why don't you give us £100,000 loan fee for Cadden until Christmas, and if he does well, a fixed transfer fee of £1 million?" It's a completely normal way of doing business in the professional leagues. But no, not for us - we need to remember our place,

Daily Record reporting Wigan Athletic and Millwall are in for Cadden, opening bids of £500K Says we are looking for a million. IMO, he's a limited player and I can't see a million pounds in him. Splitting the difference would be good business for the club.

Correct - I am referring to players brought through at Motherwell who went on to play in the English Premiership. I look at the Premiership as two eras, Pre-Sky, and post-SKY TV. We've had very few players that have come through our youth development and went on to play in the post-SKY English Premiership. McClair & McCallister were pre-SKY, a different generation.

^^ By the way, he's also a cut above Cadden. Of the two, I know who I'd have my money on gaining the most caps for Scotland, especially with the retirement of Scott Brown.

Har har, you're hilarious. Campbell is the only potential premiership level player we have at our club. I predict you'll see him at a premiership club within two years max, and he will be a five million pound player in his career. I also reckon he'll be played further up the pitch this season. IMO, the best player we have produced since McFadden. Better than Pearson, McCulloch and McMillan.

I think our club would accept a couple of scratchcards from Killie just now in exchange for the potential Dom Thomas sell-on fee. Anyway, I'm not being harsh on Burrows. I'm saying that he'll be furious with himself for agreeing to a 40% sell-on. I agree with others that paying down the debt is the priority, and £250,000 as mentioned would be very handy. It would be a nightmare scenario for us to be relegated carrying any debt, never mind the current seven-figure debt. Potential relegation hasn't seemed to enter anyone's mind this close season. With our current squad and manager, none of us believes we are prime candidates. Livingston and St Mirren seem to have been very careless in losing their respective managers. St Mirren have been double-dunted by losing Lewis Morgan too. You'd imagine at least one would be in the relegation mix. Hamilton seem to be doing a complete rebuild. Hibs also seem to have lost important players, and if McGinn goes, there may be trouble ahead. Anf I can't see Killie keeping up their form from last season, so - my prediction for league placings next year - Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts, Motherwell, Hibs, St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Dundee, St Mirren, Hamilton, Livingston

Kipre at a million would be excellent business. Even more so with a decent sell-on clause. The reported 40% sell-on fee for Carson has put the club in a delicate position. What's a decent keeper worth to us per season? A quarter million in cup games and league position? It could well be that just for the feel-good factor as watching recent Motherwell keepers would put you off going to Fir Park. Burrows must be fuming he agreed to 40%. We're very unlikely to get true value to the club for Carson, and we'll need to balance the potential income loss against irritating agents and players. The whole idea is to give players a shop window. To deny them moves which could treble their wages won't sit well. Especially players on the wrong side of thirty.

Is our transfer window closing on August 9th?

How long has Gorrin signed for? The website won't load, as usual. Hallelujah - IT WORKS! - one year deal.

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My understanding is that it's a short-term injury. He was due to be released on May 31 and his current club gave him a 30-day extension to allow their medics to finish the treatment and sign him off.

A ) - it's a rumour. B) - you're assuming he'd be away in October. We'll know soon enough who the 99.9% guy is. We're in for a "Kipre-style signing," - a guy being signed on an under-20 deal with the expectation he'll be in the first team squad quickly. I hear his current club has to clear up an injury issue before releasing him due to his age. Apparently, under-20's can't be released while injured. edited cos it looks like I said he was a Kipre type of player, he isn't.