VictorOnopko
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1 hour ago, virginton said:
So to be clear, you looked it all up only to find that the facts indeed confirm that Morton have more trophies on all fronts, as well as more seasons in the top flight and fewer seasons in the seaside leagues. I had already told you all of that, so you were in fact completely wasting your time.
Unlucky.
I don't think I was "unlucky" to look up the stats you were skewing and to be able to establish that your claim that Morton had won " far more league titles" was entirely false, unless you meant to say "one more league title... in the fouth tier". Was that a typo? I presume it must have been, as only a fantasist would believe that a fourth tier title, along with some nonsense about who has spent less time in the third tier (who cares?) and a pile of pre-season local cups - which no one in Scotland even realises are being played except fans of the couple of league teams contesting them - makes one team a laughing stock and the other far superior to them and in a position to bitterly gloat. But, if it makes you feel better to fire out wonky salvos at Ayr United fans, then carry on. My point - which believe remains a strong one - is that it is an odd fight to pick given the rather similar records your teams have. An Ayr fan also mentioned that they have the superior head to head over time which, given that you are counting up everything the clubs have ever done in the history of the game, must be quite disappointing for you.
Maybe we simply have to agree to disagree on Morton being much bigger and less of a "point and laugh" outfit than Ayr. All I (and, I suspect many other fans of other clubs) recall from recent years was a tragi-comic relegation from tier 2 to the "seaside league" you so disdain, having conceded ten goals in a final league game. Clue: it wasn't Ayr who suffered it.
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14 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said:
Oh goody goody.
This might mean... er, nothing at all actually.
Why do you bother to repeatedly post on this thread to tell us how pointless it is? Isn't that quite... pointless?
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3 hours ago, virginton said:
I think you'll find that people have been pointing and laughing at Ayr United for decades champ.
Not really, considering that we have more trophies, far more league titles, far more seasons spent in the top flight than the seaside no-marks. All of which are some metrics of 'success' as a football club, which explains why an Ayr fan couldn't think about them when composing another blustering, shite comeback.
Thanks for playing anyway.
I don't have an iron in the fire in this argument/ odd wind up attempt, but I had a spare 5 mins there so looked up Ayr and Morton's relative successes.
I read that Morton have won the 2nd tier 6 times, as have Ayr. They've won the third tier 3 times, as, again, have Ayr. Perhaps Morton's single 4th tier championship gives them the edge in league wins...? Morton also have a Scottish cup to their name, while Ayr do not - however, Ayr were in a major final (League Cup) in 2001. Morton were last in one in 1964. Morton appear to have won loads of Renfrewshire Cups... which is good for the 'trophies won' stat, but not much else.
As a Thistle fan, I genuinely haven't heard anyone treating Ayr as a laughing stock, as you claim here. I do remember a few sad shakes of the head when Morton got beaten 10-2 and relegated by a country mile the season after Thistle eased away to win the Championship against you though. No "pointing and laughing"; just disappointment for you that you had been so embarrassed.
All in all, it seems an odd fight to pick.
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39 minutes ago, Hammer Jag said:
Former ICT striker Andrea Mbuyi-Mutombo training with us according to the Daily Retard.
On the one hand, he's apparently scored a grand total of 8 goals in an 11 year career.
On the other hand, he's only 28, which is the same age Neil Alexander was when he was 28.
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Like everyone else, I'm very pleased about Storey's revised contract. He's shown commitment to the club, (presumably) saved us money, and has the pace to cause problems in this division.
That said, does Archibald have the gumption to regularly play him as a forward, where he has a good chance of scoring goals, or will he stubbornly stick to last season's failed tactic of putting him out on the wing, which everyone could see was a complete waste of time?
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11 hours ago, oneteaminglasgow said:
Aye, Sean Welsh was definitely the man to turn last season’s complete train wreck of abject dross and charlatans into a competent top flight team.
A fit Welsh wouldn't have done us any harm at all last season. Given that Haccies beat us by 0 points and we were in the play offs spot on GD, having lacked any semblance of a competent midfield all season, with Osman and Barton both forgetting how to play football, it's not a huge leap to think we may have stayed up if we'd had a midfielder in there who had previously been tidy and committed for us (in spells, at least). I know... if my auntie had baws, etc... but last season's relegation was down to very small margins.
In other news, it seems from the St Murn board this morning that "there is nothing in the Doolan story" - who'd have thunk it??
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Terrific news that we've offloaded Barton to DUFC. He had one great season with us, followed immediately by an absolute stinker where he downed tools and hid for about 6 months. Fantastic to get his inflated wages off the books. He doesn't like football, or teammates, so good to get rid.
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30 minutes ago, cilitbang said:
I guess the river can be put to good use as we boot the unwanted 3 into it.
Or, looks like there are three handy silos already in situ. Once the Overpaid Three have dug some drainage ditches, they can be stored in those. I imagine that's why we chose this particular field.
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I for one am shocked - shocked - to learn that Adam Barton doesn't want his teammates to do well, and doesn't love football. Football doesn't love him, either.
I wonder how his "self pride" is doing after last season?
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14 minutes ago, jagsfan57 said:
So you think that he was more to blame than any other player and there is no possibility that his form this season will be more in line with his 1st season ?I think he was our joint worst player last season (based on the games I managed to get to, anyway), along with Devine. His attitude stank and he was one of the main reasons we were overrun game after game by poor teams; he looked absolutely clueless and afraid of getting involved. He might be better this season in a lower league if no one else will take him, or if he stays, he might continue to dial in his halfarsed performances (on premiership wages), as he clearly thinks he's better than he is. Is he worth keeping on and throwing money at in the hope that he suddenly finds focus, determination and motivation again? In my opinion - no.
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4 minutes ago, jagsfan57 said:
I am a bit bemused by the stick Barton is getting. He had a bad season last year, but the one before he was POTY. Which one is his norm.
Because he went from POTY to an absolute liability, and we got relegated?
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7 hours ago, Cerberus said:
I can see Storey staying.
I wouldn't mind if he did, as his limited "running fast in a straight line" shtick may work better in this division if he is played regularly through the middle, having been played on the wing, and sporadically, last year in one of Archibald's many baffling selection patterns. Obviously he has to be motivated too, but that's another matter.
Barton is probably the priority offload from the three high-earners, as his "strolling around and not winning challenges while the game passes by" shtick definitely won't work, and he wasn't trying last season.
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1. ICT
2. Ross C
3. Falkirk
4. Jags
5. Dundee U
6. Dunfermline
7. Ayr
8. Morton
9. QOS
10. Alloa
Basically the above would be a best-case scenario for Thistle, given our massive clear out followed by early excuses from the unsackable Arsene Archibald about lack of money, scraping around for loans, etc. Much might hinge on whether we can offload the 3 players on Prem wages (great overconfident planning there by the club) or whether they'll still be hanging around when the season starts. Dundee United will probably finish higher given their latest windfall from the Mcnamara selloffs which got them relegated... but it'd be funny if they didn't.
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Gabriel Rojo de la Vega Piccolo as 1st team modelling consultant.
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"Just... Law". I suppose we're no longer Lawless...
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Fantastic home kit - hoops are so much better than verticals in our colours. Hooped socks look good too. Blue away strip is a bit random, but will put up with it as the home one is such a pleasant surprise.
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I was surprised when Cerny appeared to be willing to hang around and play lower league football with us. He's better than that, so it's not a shock at all to hear he's off. It's obviously bad news though.
Still, at least we don't have Scott Fox or Ryan Scully anymore. Hopefully someone better than those two will come in.
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1 hour ago, John Lambie said:
You're a dour faced so and so. We've got a website for talent spotting and probably a YouTube search for "name-surname best bits" to confirm it. Adam Barton must have looked like Franco Baresi when Archie went snooping.
Or a realist? Yes, that sounds like a good guess at what we have in place. Milan Nitriansky probably looked pretty useful too.
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17 minutes ago, Sting777 said:
Would be good if we even had a few rumours about potential signings before renewals, but the place is dead and clubs like Dundee Und and Ross Co have already started recruiting, especially United. Considering the amount of players we need in, that's disappointing.
What are the chances we get a few inadequate signings in at the last minute, as AA often likes to do, which leave us short in one or several areas of the pitch? I hope he's off at an intensive learning course somewhere on how to spot good football players.
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40 minutes ago, Scotty Tunbridge said:
We’re pish but we scored enough goals to keep our head above the water Partick did not. Ergo Partick got what they deserved.I agree with both those statements. My original point was that both us and your team were pish, having amassed identical points totals - so it was odd for your fellow accie to come along and call us pish as though that was a distinguishing factor and there was miles of difference between the two teams. One game - our comedy 4-0 pumping in Dingwall (which absolutely demonstrated that we deserved to go down) accounted for almost half of the GD which saved you...
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22 minutes ago, Scotty Tunbridge said:
We had a much superior goal difference and we didn’t lose to that Livi side over 2 legs either.
We also didn’t throw away at least 6 points in the last 5 minutes of games which would have seen you safe.
The league table doesn’t lie Partick got what they deserved and I’m looking forward to GTF day. Oh also get it up John Lambies Yer Da horrendous poster.Did you miss my statement that we are pish, and deservedly going down?
If you think your GD advantage having finished equal on points with our worst side in the past 7 years (ft. D. Devine in "defence" and a makeshift midfield all season) makes you anything other than utterly pish too, then who am I to argue? A hypothetical result in a play off game which you avoided on said GD isn't much of an argument though. We're pish - and I'm fairly certain you are too.
I quite like Accies and your resilience in staying up, which enrages the "big teams only in the top league" roasters. However, you apparently have a minority of absolute spanners in your support, playing the big baws card based on a shambles of a season and deleting an entire match thread (even though it was full of tributes to J Lambie) when you lost to our pish team not long ago. Bit more self-awareness might be an idea.
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2 hours ago, leefy118 said:
GET THIS THREAD TO FUK!! championship thread. Pish team
Indeed we are pish. Completely pish, and deservedly doon.
However, when I look at the table I see your mob amassed a whole 0 (zero) more points over 38 games. That's not very good, is it?
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The Keep list is fine, except for Spittal. Arsene Archibald loves him, but it's far from clear why. Pretty obvious he'll be a passenger once again next season when we're scrapping in various games.
Can I be the 437th person to say thank f*ck Danny Devine is gone.
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Joking about players from 6 years ago aside, what we desperately need is two solid centre backs* and two tough, fearless, tackling, ball-winning, tempo-controlling midfielders who don't hide. I hope we've seen the last of Osman, Woods and Barton who between them had none of these features.
*Cargill and/or Keown may do OK in the 1st division alongside someone much, much, much more competent than Danny Devine.
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Early Season predictions
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Posted · Edited by VictorOnopko
I see. So results between the teams don't count, and the single fourth tier title is your crucial tie-breaker. Fine; we'll leave it there.
A multi-clause sentence with a word combination you don't like does not equal a "word salad" . As you are demonstrating very well, it's more than possible to gloat in a bitter (and misinformed) way. It's also interesting to see your deflection tactics in attempting to shift the focus onto vocabulary rather than football - particularly since your claim of "far" more league titles was either a lie which you hoped no one would check, or a very poorly chosen word.
Thanks for playing. Unlucky. Ainsley picture, etcetera, etcetera.