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9 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:
People still say Brora didn't want promotion in 2015.
Won their semi-final
Won the 1st leg of the final
Go down 1-0 at half-time in the 2nd leg, tying it up 1-1. Minutes into the 2nd half they score to take the lead again. Get a player sent off for a 2nd yellow and eventually lose out.
Can only assume somebody made a fortune at the bookies for the amount of effort they put in.
Our defeat at North End last week got some conspiracy nutters going, saying it was "proof" that we didn't really want to get promoted to the Highland League. Obviously they conveniently ignored the fact that just a few days prior our team worked their socks off to come back from 2-0 down against East Craigie to win 3-2. Why would they do that if they didn't want to go up?
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On 22/04/2024 at 12:40, The Holiday Song said:
Was at the ADO Den Haag - FC Eindhoven game on Saturday and did ponder who in their right mind supports FC rather than PSV. I guess Rotterdam is split in areas like Feyenoord south of the river so the three teams there make a bit of sense, but must be tough going supporting the blue team in Eindhoven!
In Rotterdam the river is a major boundary indeed. Feyenoord draw their support from the south bank of the river and all the villages/towns south of the river (being a big club they obviously also draw in support from further afield, but much larger part of their support is local than at Ajax and to a lesser extend PSV). The north bank of the river is split between Sparta and Excelsior. Sparta represent the west/north of the city and the towns/villages surrounding on the north/west side. Same for Excelsior on the east side of the city and surrounding towns/villages. My family (at least my father's side) is from the east side of Rotterdam, hence why I support Excelsior.
FC Eindhoven were originally the main team of Eindhoven, while PSV were a workers' team for Phillips. Until the 1950's, FC Eindhoven were the bigger club, with PSV then taking over. Nowadays, while PSV are by far the biggest club there, FC Eindhoven draw most of the support from the south side of the city. There isn't that much of a rivalry anymore as the difference between the 2 is so big, so there will be PSV fans who occasionally watch FC Eindhoven when PSV aren't playing and vice versa.
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Well, I didn't have many hopes for the league title and it's definitely over. Odd with us that when we do lose, it's with a big margin. We had only 4 defeats in all competitions all season (Broughty/North End in the league, Broxburn in the Scottish Cup & Darvel in the Junior Cup) and conceded 14 goals in those 4 games while not scoring any. The consistency is what has to improve for next season. However, the club is still working hard on improving both on and off the pitch and I'm pleased with what I'm seeing. The new, young, players that joined us during this season will all be there next season. We keep building and hopefully come back stronger next season.
But the season isn't over yet, there is still a cup to win (hopefully). Semi-final against Buchanhaven Hearts next weekend, all focus can be on that one now.
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Also an interesting stat: with Vitesse's relegation, 6 clubs (Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV, FC Utrecht, SC Heerenveen & AZ) have been in the Eredivisie continuously from the start of the century, the next longest serving club is Fortuna Sittard who got promoted in 2018. That means that next season 12 out of 18 clubs, so 2/3rd of the league, have been promoted in 2018 or later. And then to think that there was 1 season in that period without promotion/relegation due to Covid.
Since the turn of the century, 31 different clubs have played in the Eredivisie. Of the 13 clubs that are not there now, 12 are in the 2nd tier Eerste Divisie. Other than the B-teams, the only Eerste Divisie teams to not have played in the Eredivisie this century are FC Eindhoven, Telstar, Helmond Sport and TOP Oss. Of those, only TOP Oss never played Eredivisie. The only team that play lower are RBC Roosendaal, who re-started in the 10th tier back in 2012 after bankruptcy. They just got back to back promotions to get to the 5th tier, Vierde Divisie. They are back in the nationally organised "division" structure for the first time after going bust. Below the 5th tier, leagues are organised in regions.
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Vitesse Arnhem just got officially relegated from the eredivisie. But not due to a result on the pitch. Because of their financial issues, they got an 18 point deduction from the licensing committee. That leaves them on -1 and confirmed relegation as they didn't appeal. Even without the deduction, they were already 7 points from a relegation play-off place with 4 games left so they'd almost certainly get relegated anyway. But that will be the least of their worries as there is still a risk of liquidation. The could even have lost their licence today so -18 is better than they feared.
They have been in the eredivisie from 1989, making them the 5th longest serving club behind the traditional "big 3" (Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV) who have been there from the start in 1956, and FC Utrecht who joined when they were formed through a merger in 1970. It can be argued Utrecht were really also there from the start as one of the clubs that merged to form FC Utrecht, DOS, were eredivisie from 1956 - 1970. The new club continued playing at the same ground (and still do to this day) and most fans/players came from DOS.
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18 hours ago, An Absolute Imposter said:
I'm starting to think it's not the SJC folks ire is aimed at but the SJFA, but unfortunately the SJC is the visible and easy target for that, anger shall we call it.
I had a thought earlier re the SJFA, are they not responsible for the running of the 2 leagues in the North East or will it be the North and East Region SJFA.
At any rate they are both SJFA leagues, and I don't see much evidence of the SJFA working for the members in these leagues.
I'm thinking with respect to assisting/encouraging any clubs that would like to work towards an SFA license, if it ever opens up again. I don't actively follow either league or any clubs, but what input do the SJFA have in both leagues.
Maybe someone like @Marten will be able to furnish us with some facts about the relationship between the SJFA and the 2 leagues.
I am ready and willing to go on a rant about the SJFA but only if its justified of course, so some facts please.
The Midlands League & North Region League are organised by the ERJFA & NRJFA respectively, both in turn fall under the the SJFA. So yes, they are still officially "junior" leagues, but obviously in the pyramid now.
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2 hours ago, Ayr Cask Force said:
3 handballs by ajax in the box should have been 3 penalties to feyenoord
And they should have a player sent off early in the second half. Staggering that VAR didn't spot the Ajax player deliberately hitting a Feyenoord player on his head...
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13 minutes ago, The Holiday Song said:
6-0 after 67 minutes too. Always annoyed when teams ease up in games like this when 7 or more is there.
Just watched the highlights and the Ajax defending is something else.
In fairness, I don't think they eased up. They had a seventh goal disallowed. A mate of mine who was at the game said they tried very much to score another one.
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Ajax just suffered their biggest league defeat in their history. And it's a painful one for them.
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On Wednesday is the first fixture, and probably not the last, that has been moved to a different ground just to get it played. Kirrie Thistle v Downfield will be played at Thomson Park as Kirrie doesn't have lights suitable for a game.
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15 hours ago, invergowrie arab said:
New manager bounce for the Port
Here is hoping! It would be great if George Shields puts the title back in our hands.
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Welcome back and I hope things are going better with you now.
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38 minutes ago, Ray Patterson said:
Just back in the house, a very good game that.
Lochee United were well on top in the first half, and really should have been two or three up. Was very much the opposite in the second with Broughty scoring an equaliser and missing several chances. Still don't know how they skied the open goal over the bar.
Felt like it would be a matter of time before the 'Ferry got the winner, but Lochee won a soft penalty with 15 to go, scored by Hay who got the first I think(?), before Bobby Linn scored an excellent team move to kill the game.
Good crowd at the Quest too. Thought there was about 400+ there.Yes, he did get the first too. That was also his 50th league goal of the season.
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Broughty Athletic 1-3 Lochee United
It's not over just yet. Broughty are still firm favourites, especially when looking at the fixtures both sides have. But if we manage to keep winning the pressure would be on Broughty as in that case they can't afford to drop points.
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8 hours ago, peebles_Dee said:
Just noticed Ferguson who I watched is at Hearts B is now at Lochee. Has he got the ability to get back up the leagues? What was the name of the 17year old that signed for Lochee and how is he coping with the physicality of the league?
He now mainly comes on as a sub, he is a good striker, but Kerr Hay is on fire this season and by far the top goal scorer in this league.
Which 17 year old? We had a few young signings recently.
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7 minutes ago, ExiledLichtie said:
Really disappointed that Lochee aren't at least getting a chance to go up, mental that they could lose only one game and still not win the league. I think they would have been good value in the Highland league and would have freshened things up a bit, its good to see clubs moving up and down. Broughty winning the league but seemingly not bothering to get their licensing sorted out feels like a proper heel turn.
It's frustrating, I admit Broughty are the better side at the moment, but with them seemingly not bothered about a license, they could continue being the blockers. I'd be happy for them to go up so next season we'd have a better chance.
But it is what it is, a lot of work is going on at Lochee United both on and off the pitch to build for the longer term. Our time will come.
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On 17/03/2024 at 16:11, Stag Nation said:
AFAIK it doesn't work like that. The only route from the EOS is to the Lowland League.
The only way to get promoted to the HL is from one of the three northern Tier 6 leagues
If they wanted to, Jeanfield could switch to the Midlands League to have a route into the HL instead. Same goes for Luncarty and Kinnoul as Perth is a bit of a grey area between the two leagues.
I'd be very surprised to see Jeanfield make that switch though.
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30 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:
It's been done to death. Suffice to say, the clubs did not want to play in a diminished league so the more moved across, the less appealing staying behind was.
This. Also, would you really want what happened in the east, with a trickle of a number of clubs every year over a few years? It took a few years of conferences for the EoSFL to get to a proper structure. And only this season it can really be said clubs are generally at the level they belong at, with a handful of exceptions.
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56 minutes ago, Lichtie78 said:
Carnoustie are miles off.
They said they were aiming for a license but no clue if they managed to make any improvements this season. I suppose I'll find out soon enough when we head there.
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Geert Wilders will NOT be the next Dutch Prime Minister. Other party leaders couldn't get an agreement with him. There are now talks of getting an independent PM that all parties can agree with.
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11 hours ago, Ray Patterson said:
Weird question but if Tayport or more likely Lochee United were to go up, would they still be eligible to compete in their current cup competitions such as the Interregional North-East Regional Cup
I'm not sure to be honest. I assume if we get promoted, we'll be in the Highland League cups. But the clubs have regional cups to compete in as well, so maybe we'd stay in a regional cup as the Aberdeenshire Cup or North of Scotland Cup won't have us obviously?
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1 hour ago, realmadrid said:
What are the issues preventing them from applying (Apart from the SFA themselves)
its one of the better facilities in the league. good area of cover and has floodlights.
From my days of running youth teams in Perth and at one point having to play in a Dundee league the changing rooms were adequate.
Cover, floodlights etc. aren't the issue indeed. In terms of spectator facilities it's only really the toilets I believe. But other issues aren't really visible to spectators. Things like dressing rooms and other facilities for players/officials/referees aren't to the SFA licensing standards.
Obviously there are other licensing demands than just the ground but Broughty have plenty of volunteers / committee members so I'm sure they could pass those. It's more difficult to sort the other issues as I believe it's a council owned facility.
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38 minutes ago, F_T_Y said:
Do broughty have a license?
No, and unlikely to get it any time soon.
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One QF was played last night. Lochee United had a straightforward win at Letham. It was a commanding performance from us throughout. Could even have been more, but I can't complain about the result and the effort by the lads. They picked themselves up really well after the very disappointing Broughty game last week with 2 good performances straight after. The other 3 quarter finals are being played on Saturday 16th March.
Letham 0-5 Lochee United
Bridge of Don Thistle v Hermes
Buchanhaven Hearts v Downfield
Tayport v East Craigie0
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Apparently it's possible to apply for a period of grace as long as a plan is put in place. So not neccesarily.