ShrimpLok

Further evidence on Meadowbank / Livingston is that the hospitality suites at Almondvale are named the Ferranti Suite and Meadowbank Suite so they’re at least claiming some of the clubs history from those days.

It’s a sad end. Great place to watch football and very welcoming to me back in November last year when I turned up to watch what was my only live football game of 2020.

As well as Campbeltown there are seven other Argyll and Bute amateur teams that I’m aware of in Glasgow based leagues. Tarbert, Lochgilphead Red Star and Oban Saints are 3 with similar long distance trips. Rothesay Brandane and Dunoon closer to Glasgow but needing a ferry journey. Rhu and Cardross basically Greater Glasgow anyway. There is also Highland’s South Lochaber Thistle in Kinlochleven who play in the GGAPFL. Traditionally half of Kinlochleven was in Argyll prior to 1975 albeit the school pitch they play on is north of the river so was always in Inverness-shire. They’re well north of the Highland / Lowland line but I can see why for them a Glasgow based league is easier than NCL where the closest teams would be in Inverness. Would be a tricky one if they ever applied for the Pyramid as WOSFL would suit them better but they don’t even come close to the line in the style of Tayport or Luncarty.

Scourie lead Nairn 1-0 for most of the 1st half and deserved their lead against a poor Nairn side. Nairn lucky to equalise before half time but have been better in second half and 5-1 a fair result in the end.

Yes, same as Harthill play in Greenrigg and BSC play in Alloa. But this list is apparently not based on ground location but spiritual home so I was pointing out to be consistent on that basis St Cadocs should be listed as East Renfrewshire.

Well if you're doing it that way you should have 3 senior clubs in East Renfrewshire - Neilston, Arthurlie and St Cadocs.

Harthill Royal’s ground is in West Lothian so you can’t include them as a North Lanarkshire team. So only 11 council areas playing Junior.

For trivia interest I make Scourie the third most westerly senior football club in Scotland after Stranraer and Fort William. Lewis and Harris FC's Ullapool ground is also slightly further west than Scourie if you count their occasional NCFA cup games as making them a senior club.

I'm staying in Kylesku that weekend (which is even pricier than the Scourie Hotel) but totally worth it. Best hotel in the Highlands. But as I'm up in Sutherland anyway 10 miles up the road to Scourie counts as practically next door by their standards.

If the North Caledonian Fixture Secretary is reading this thread can you please schedule a Scourie home game on Saturday 19th December. (I've got 2 nights booked in a hotel already) Thanks in advance.

Kelty is also north of Stirling as well. Suggests this isn't the best thought through plan...

Very sad news. RIP.

Inverurie Loco Works has been closed for 51 years, getting on for 40% of the history of the 117 year old eponymous football club. So no reason why clubs can't keep Junior in their name for a good while yet, even if the Junior organisation disappears entirely.

IoM could play in the Northern Lighthouse Board league with Girvan, Eyemouth, Oban Saints, Lewis and Harris FC, Orkney, Shetland and Craigroyston to represent 84 George Street.

I agree Larry came across as bitter but given his posts here that wasn't a huge surprise. I was more surprised by how totally clueless David Cadenhead came across as! It was like he'd never heard of there being a dividing line between Highland League and Lowland League. If NRJFA officials are really that ignorant then it does explain why no progress has been made on dealing with the Tayside issue. And the Tayside clubs have got to take some responsibility for that because surely they should have at least had a conversation with the North Region clubs about potential structures at some point in the last 7 years since the Lowland League was created.

West Lothian Council own Almondvale Stadium but Livingston FC are in the Premiership.

There's no point in having clubs in the Scottish Cup that don't meet UEFA Category 4 as they might win the Scottish Cup and then qualify for the Europa League Group Stage, therefore all clubs outwith the SPFL Premiership and Championship should be excluded from the Scottish Cup and allow clubs with ambition to get on with it. See what I did there...

Just the NCL teams (apart from Golspie) and the Welfare teams who are excluded.

Cromdale has been in Banffshire, Inverness-shire (detached part), Morayshire, Badenoch and Strathspey and now Highland. Can't make up its mind which county it wants to be in.

Postcodes can't be used for determining boundaries otherwise Harthill Royal would be in the WOSL with their ML5 postcode and Bo'ness still have an EH postcode despite being kicked out of West Lothian for bad behaviour in 1974...

Grangemouth Community Council has published boundaries on Falkirk Council's website and it includes the entirety of the Falkirk Stadium with the boundary being down the A9. https://www.falkirk.gov.uk/maps-local/council-democracy/community-councils.aspx?prop=community_&val=Grangemouth (incl Skinflats)

As "ShrimpLok, Saviour of the Grade" did so well at providing a pathway for the West Region to move to the WOSL I now present my 3 point plan for Tayside clubs to make themselves a few quid: 1 Propose a motion at the SJFA AGM creating a new class of "Associate Membership" of the SJFA for teams not competing in a Junior League who wish to compete in the Junior Cup. 2 Make it clear that Associate Members have no access to SJFA assets, as per any other club leaving the juniors (see East Region leavers passim).. 3 Propose a prize money split in the Junior Cup that sees the 4 highest finishing SJFA full members rewarded with prize money each year funded from assets of the SJFA in addition to the semi final and final guarantees.

I'm changing my username to "ShrimpLok, Saviour of the Grade"

If I was being paid by the SJFA to try and preserve the existence of the body this is what I would suggest they propose: SJFA advise all West clubs to join WOSL SJFA advise all south of Tay clubs to join EOS SJFA advise north of Tay and North Region clubs to form a new Senior Grampian league Announce that SJFA will become a body like the County FAs but with a nationwide remit to run the Junior Cup only Announce that the 2020-21 Junior Cup will have no replays, no Saturday priorities after a postponement and single leg semi finals. Invite applications for membership of the SJFA from any club in Tier 5 or below. They can do all of that without need for any of the Senior Leagues to agree to it and it would preserve the history of the SJFA as a body through the Junior Cup while also allowing clubs a fresh start in the pyramid. Bold, imaginative and decisive. HL / LL / EOS clubs can choose to compete in the Junior Cup or not depending on their preference. Likelihood of that happening... Low.

For evidence of what happens to a club that “stays behind” see Whitburn pre vs post Superleague.