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On 20/06/2020 at 13:30, Henderson to deliver ..... said:
We're way off topic now
The bit in bold is key, jobs, services etc. were an afterthought when these estates were thrown up on the periphery of the city. No surprise then, when some of it barely lasted 30 years.
It's for another thread anyway, unless we're talking about razing Tynecastle to build social housing after Hearts are chucked out of Scottish football.
best idea I have seen yet
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39 minutes ago, MegaRichJambos said:
Hard to see Doncaster keeping his job after this. Let hope this is the start of a change in how our league is run.
Well done Ann Budge!
She's made some mistakes with the team but our club is in safe hands.
Great job!
Not to sure what you are smoking / drinking / eating my friend.................. but the whole country could do with some of it.
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49 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said:
This is what I was saying - I would have still been unhappy, but a lot less unhappy if there had even been an attempt to play those games. I just can't see the logic and consistency to the decisions. They look like they were guided by Doncater (SKY 2020 and my bonus?) Celtic (clear the decks for 2020-21 CL start) and all aided and abetted by a fortuitous majority of board member clubs who would do quite well thank-you-very-much out of calling the leagues.
And had Hearts been two positions higher ............... there would have been no argument. I believe AB lauded; by Pete Jeden and associates are doing irreparable damage to the reputation of Heart of Midlothian, rather sad in my opinion.
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50 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
Arbroath potentially had 16 games still to play.
And if you're on about just playing the play-offs, then Hearts would have to be relegated, so I doubt you're arguing for just the play offs being played.
Well spotted Random.
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2 hours ago, kingjoey said:
I hope that he's a better lawyer than he was a player.
he isn't, he is wrong, wait and see.
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2 hours ago, Yorky said:
Will there be a level of surprise at the mighty Hearts when all the Tinpot/Diddy clubs (which according to Hearts supporters is just about everyone) fail to go out of existence ? At some stage Hearts supporters will need to take a step back, take a deep breath, and move on. Looking for snippets from every other club struggling due to Covid 19 and wishing them dead and buried is really not the way to go. Some of the stuff such as stating visiting supporters and journalists should be made to feel unsafe is plain crazy. Hearts will recover from this and quickly return to the top flight, it’s merely a blip in their history. End of the day you can argue it’s unfair and maybe it is. But it’s still a fact that the team with the third biggest budget in the league were bottom while a club like Motherwell with a budget maybe a quarter of Hearts finished third, Hearts got themselves in this position in the first place and it went from there.
Excellent post sir, I think quite a lot of people have a degree of sympathy for Hearts .......yes! but they were rubbish and needed to accept relegation instead of crying like a baby. The problem would seem to be certain supporters who are so busy spitting their dummy out that they seem to have lost their common sense, those are who need to be brought in line by their own fellow supporters as they are simply exacerbating the situation.
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6 hours ago, Mr. X said:
At what point does he start laughing? I'm 26 minutes in so far.
Tom English is such an argumentative prat imho, Craig Levein is clearly linked to Budge by strings even though he is not even at Heats any longer and Findlay comes across as a reasonable man who seems sympathetic (to the other teams). So; in short Findlay sympathetic Levein and English merely pathetic.
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5 hours ago, Zing. said:
Big bad Les has released a statement via Jambos Kickback
From: Leslie Deans
Date: 13 June 2020 at 20:37:49 BST
To:
Cc:
Subject: Football reconstruction
We've now reached D-Day for Scottish football.
Will our clubs elect for a new dawn and reconstruction to 14-10-10-10 where no club suffers major harm and damage or do they reject the opportunity before them?
And if more than 21 of our 42 clubs give the SPFL Board's proposal a positive response, will the board use the executive powers it possesses to impose reconstruction? Neil Doncaster said on Sky TV as recently as last Friday that the board could not go against the will of the majority of the clubs. An imposed Reconstruction would prove he spoke with honesty and integrity.
Partick Thistle's excellent statement on June 13 calls for clubs to come together and cause no lasting harm. The alternative is the litigation which Hearts , and perhaps others, will have to pursue. I believe the already strong case is strengthened by the restraint of trade principle and recent decisions in France and Belgium.
The SPFL board should consider the damage this litigation could cause.
Firstly, as someone who's been in the legal profession for 45 years, I can assure them it could be months or years before any case is finally settled. The legal process can be slow and the courts are, like us all, affected by the lockdown.
Secondly, Hearts could seek interdict to prevent the league starting. Whilst there's no guarantee the court would grant this, if they did,would the Sky TV deal be adversely affected.? How would clubs entering European competitions be affected? No competitive matches before European games?
Would UEFA suspend the participation of Scottish clubs until the Proceedings were completed?
And if Hearts ask the court to ring fence £8 million to cover potential damages and costs,how would a club who voted yes feel when their payment from SPFL was drastically reduced?
How do they tell their manager that his already meagre budget was being reduced?
And how would they react to a board who had the power to avoid all this yet refused to exercise it?
Would they seek to impose personal financial liability on each board director for wilful neglect of their corporate responsibility? Company law normally gives directors protection for losses of the company. This protection may not be available however if a director has acted wilfully and negligently to the obvious detriment of the company , in failing to avoid an obvious loss.
And what might James Anderson think of Scottish football putting self interest and vindictive insularity before the greater good, when even the SPFL rules oblige clubs to act" in the utmost good faith" to each other. ?
We should never have been here in the first place.
Responsibility for that lies with a board who failed to find a suitable solution when lockdown came.
They have an opportunity to remedy their mistake.
If enough clubs refuse to do the right and honourable thing, then the board must do so.
Leslie Deans.SOME PEOPLE ON HERE TALK PURE AND UTTER KECH.
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1 minute ago, JamboMikey said:
And that is a response how?
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34 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:
It's a wee shame you'll get nothing then.
I do hope Pete Jeden is really a decent bloke ..............he surely cannot be such a wan#er as he comes across on here, can he?
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1 hour ago, JamboMikey said:
Good job we're loaded
Maybe with money .............. but way short of brains.
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On 29/05/2020 at 19:01, Coventry Saint said:On 29/05/2020 at 18:55, DAVIDB69 said:
So we may be the only league in Europe that starts a new season on time
With a new TV deal and prize money all doled out so teams can budget accordingly.
I think it's been handled perfectly, tbqhwy.
Wy?
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42 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:2 hours ago, jaybeee said:
Yes............ possibly something to do with size of fan-base >>> leading to a higher income than most other clubs compounded by the distinct lack of another team with similar financial clout. Of course the fact that their financial superiority allows the signing of better than average players may well have something to do with it .................. just possibly.
I think I've got it, thanks.
Your welcome say hello to Captain Mannering / Mainwaring for me.
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5 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
I see, you were explaining what everyone except Hearts and Falkirk supporters have understood since day one. Thanks.
Can you now explain how Celtic won the league?
Yes............ possibly something to do with size of fan-base >>> leading to a higher income than most other clubs compounded by the distinct lack of another team with similar financial clout. Of course the fact that their financial superiority allows the signing of better than average players may well have something to do with it .................. just possibly.
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12 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
I did, your first post was only minutes before and didn't have much relevance to the others. That's why I asked you specifically.
(Mainwaring)
OK, so let me explain, off the back of Hearts desperately trying to avoid relegation (which I understand) there were many scenarios and the one that irritated me most was to do with playing the season out, not fair etc, etc, we might have been OK, and so on, my point was simply since the league had been called AND it was and still is unlawful to play football in the manner required that it was all by the by. Can tell it's been a long while since I watched Dads Army, oppp's.
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12 hours ago, Green Day said:
Stopped reading at that point..........
i do believe there are night classes that might help you to improve your reading skills (after the virus is gone) in the meantime might I suggest attempting some of the wonderful stories of the Famous Five?
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13 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said:13 hours ago, jaybeee said:
Ask Captain Mannering; he will explain it to you
No, I've asked you. Why ask about playing out this season when you know it was called last week?
To be honest if you can't be bothered following the posts back to see why the conversation turned in that direction , then I can't be bothered explaining, possibly a little like the reverse of Mannering and Wilson.
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9 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
Then why are you asking about it?
Ask Captain Mannering; he will explain it to you
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2 minutes ago, craigkillie said:
The SPFL and SFA have been in constant dialogue with the Scottish Government throughout this, and Phase 2 of the road map specifically mentions the restart of professional sport.
Yes, but when? In time to play out this season? (which can't happen now as it's officially done)
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8 hours ago, the jambo-rocker said:
You'll get no arguments from me. Up until a couple weeks ago, I thought we had some case but we've probably all but fucked it now. Still raging mind.I have only clocked the French tbh. You'll forgive me for not scouring the league's in my state of apathy. From what I've seen the relegated Belgian team are still looking to challenge it. It's more than seeing other leagues now looking to restart up when we went for the quick option to tie up the TV money. I don't grudge clubs for doing it, but the manner of that vote still irks. Say what you like about everyone else, none of the other countries declared it in the joke manner we did.
Not trying to be MR clever dick here......but surely any restart of the footy would need to be sanctioned by the government? and I (living in Engerlund) believe that while some of the English leagues may restart with government approval, I really don't believe it will happen in Scotland ..............which makes the whole of that particular argument irrelevent. By the way so nice to read a Hearts fan who (while beeing pissed) is still being realistic, well done you sir.
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19 hours ago, KingRocketman II said:On 20/05/2020 at 01:28, jaybeee said:
No coherent rebuttal; eh! just MAMMY he swore at me.......tosser.
haha. nutter.
My apologies old boy, so inconsiderate of me to respond with words of three syllables when you are quite clearly struggling with capitalisation, punctuation and sentence formation. Oh dear I am a cad aren't I? ...........Still better than being a tosser who can't capitalise, punctuate of gather together sufficient letters to form a intelligent response.
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8 hours ago, KingRocketman II said:
Mods, please........
No coherent rebuttal; eh! just MAMMY he swore at me.......tosser.
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56 minutes ago, welshbairn said:59 minutes ago, jaybeee said:
The 'common sense part', the practicality part. the legality part (of actually playing), or are ye just another numpty?
3 hours ago, craigkillie said:I don't think they have any prospect of success here given that the SPFL can probably quite easily argue force majeure
I'm expecting Kelty and Brora to accept a bung, even if they managed to force a play off, recruitment and budgeting problems would be same as for Brechin if they took place just before the new season. From what Brora have being saying £30k should do it for them, no idea about Kelty.
Yes at last, a prudent, practical, pragmatic postulation , probably preferable to legislation.
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Just now, welshbairn said:
What part of his post do you disagree with? He's just stating the facts. The SFA have been silent so far, it will be interesting to see what they have to say, the operation of the pyramid is their responsibility.
The 'common sense part', the practicality part. the legality part (of actually playing), or are ye just another numpty?
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League Reconstruction 20/21 season
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or even late 60 plus,,,,,,,,ish