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  1. 1 hour ago, craigkillie said:

     

     

    I'm just outlining Kelty's argument here, because a couple of posters above have erroneously suggested that their problem is with the SPFL season being finished early. This is not relevant to Kelty (or Brora), since regardless of what happens to the SPFL season, the SPFL is bound by its own rules to put forward "Team 42" to the play-offs alongside the Highland League and Lowland League champions. The SPFL has the complete authority to cancel its own play-offs, which it has done, but does not have the authority to unilaterally cancel the League 2 play-offs.

    Clearly these play-offs can't actually be played before the end of the season, and I don't think anyone is actually suggesting that they should be. However, that does not make them technically wrong here, because under the rules of the SPFL there should be a play-off, unless the SFA/HL/LL agree otherwise.

    I don't think they have any prospect of success here given that the SPFL can probably quite easily argue force majeure, but they are obviously having a last punt at trying to push forward some sort of reconstruction and/or receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise (eg guaranteed League Cup/Challenge Cup entry for X years).

    I get the impression that if nobody responded to you that you would argue with yourself, I know and appreciate everyone has a point of view and is entitled to express it, BUT bejesus!

  2. 4 hours ago, craigkillie said:

     

    It's about none of these things. The SPFL are responsible for their own play-offs (Premiership, Championship, League 1) and for the outcomes of those leagues, and it is up to them to decide how to declare the season. However, any changes to the League 2 play-off require agreement from the SFA, HL and LL.

    Therefore Kelty's argument is nothing to do with finishing the season, but rather that the SPFL have changed the play-off arrangements (by cancelling it) contrary to the rules. They will argue that both they and Brora have been declared champions and put forward for these play-offs, therefore they SPFL do not have the power to unilaterally decide to scrap them for any reason.

    Except that it's impossible to play them?  Who is going to ask people to risk their and their families lives foir a game of football? get real and stop being a bloody pedant.

  3. On 16/05/2020 at 16:15, JTS98 said:
    On 16/05/2020 at 16:13, Ric said:

    What's the point you've already claimed that whatever I say you will consider lies.

     

    Ok, let's make it less personal.

    Do you believe that the St Mirren board would just have sat quietly and accepted relegation if the coronavirus pandemic had happened in early 2019 instead of early 2020?

    As a fan, how would you have felt about that?

    Keep in mind that St Mirren, bottom of the league after 30 games in 2019, were not relegated.

    And why would they be since the league was not finished.  This current league IS finished; for fairly obvious reasons and irrespective of whether or not footy kicks off again in Engerlund in the next few weeks; it is FOR CERTAIN that it will not be kicking off here in Scotland and so other than the total nonsense of continuing this current league campaign instead of beginning a new one when eventually that becomes possible, it is done.   And so we then come to the choices of voiding the best part of a season and the consequential financial shitstorm that would cause, or other options???    We have been there done that and decided    .................. To me personally the choice of promoting those in the lead; makes sense and relegating those who are bottom ditto, only Partick in my estimation have the right to feel aggrieved.

  4. 15 hours ago, capt_oats said:

    Along with the "Are you telling me that successful business woman Ann Budge doesn't know the difference between a loan and an advance?" shout his reverse ferret from "Loans, advances...call them what you want", "Ann Budge says the SPFL could have loaned the clubs the money as an alternative" to "no one was asking for 42 clubs to be loaned money anyway" in the space of about 20 mins live on air was a lewk as well.

    Anne Budge read the signs wrongly and Hearts paid the price..........(I personally didn't fancy a 14,14,14 set up at all)  but if she had gone for a long term change she just may have gotten the support she needed.  However she was so sure she had the backing (god knows why) that she made it clear this was just for one year  and to save Hearts, I guess she was wrong.

  5. 16 hours ago, Green Day said:

    (1) He backed the "explosive Rangers dossier" which demonstrated "bullying and coercion by the SPFL" - this has been shown to be nonsensical and the prime stooge in this - Scott Gardiner - to be a fantasist who has no back up to his claims, or credibility among the Championship clubs he claimed were witness to the bullying.

    (2) He claims that the result of the EGM ballot - which went againt Rangers, Hearts etc - is actually an endorsement to go ahead with an inquiry.

    Thats two examples which dont actually need my ego, but which I just wasted my time typing as no doubt you will say I am wrong.

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    You are correct ...........go to the top of the class.

  6. 16 hours ago, Green Day said:

    Sportsound in general feels like a poorly run nursery on open all mikes which is the one that gets most listeners.

    I understand that Craig Paterson left because he didnt like the format.

    Since then there have been some fairly poor contributors brought in - Alan Preston is perhaps the worst example. There have been successes, Derek Ferguson clearly loves his football, and its great that he is so positive about his local club and doesnt just see the world revolving round Rangers.

    Against that fairly poor backdrop, anyone who can string a sentence together - like Michael Stewart and Tom English - sounds plausible and refreshing.

    That doesnt mean that Tom English views on Scottish football are right and cant be challenged.

    He has backed the wrong horses recently but his massive ego doesnt allow him to back down.

    Michael Stewart knows is footy and doesn't come over as overtly biased, English Tom on the other hand is the modern day version of Uncle!

  7. 16 hours ago, Swordfishtrombone said:

    I think he’s okay. He is one of the better ones and I don’t think he has an agenda. As has previously been mentioned he has probably went all in on the bullying nonsense without any credible evidence and has missed a few opportunities to back down on it. The reaction to him on here has been far more extreme than anything he has tweeted or published.

    I don't think he hjs an agenda, I don't think (at least as far as football goes)  he has a fecking clue.....................really.

  8. 2 hours ago, flood said:

    And 41 clubs read the “dossier” and only a few that were not getting relegated Voted with you. 
     

    go back and read rangers statements. They have back tracked big time 
     

     

    I had no problem with any club (even Hearts) who argued their points to try and stave of relegation, they were simply doing the best they could to support their club.........even though some of it may have been a 'little' dodgy.  However WTF have Rangers got to gripe about (yes I know 9IAR) but does that not simply show what a state that club is in , I mean if it was a horse you would shoot it.  Aberdeen? god knows what they were up to, I thought Milne was a tosser; but at least he was a tosser that (generally) knew what he was doing, this new guy seems like a total numpty and likewise the new ICT man covered himself in glory.......NOT, what another tosser and a liar to boot if the other directors are to believed.  Someone earlier posted a bit of common sense which roughly said NO football will be played in the land of the haggis till at least September time (I think we will be lucky if its that early) and nor should it, anyone getting ill and possibly passing the virus on to a family member which might result in even ONE fatality because FOOTBALL was  being restarted to earl;y is unaceptable ................even to us fitba mad jocks..................SURELY?

  9. 27 minutes ago, theoriginalhedge said:

    It's not just the SPFL that should be under the microscope tomorrow.   The clubs need to take a hard look at themselves  as well .  Just about every club has a grudge against at least one other . When asked to work together for the greater good of the game they bicker , squabble and  can't agree on anything .  

    Scottish football's reputation is down the shitter and no one is prepared to take responsibility to solve any of the problems.  There is no way football can start again with so much bitterness and resentment. 

    I just hope tomorrow's meeting is not just another slanging match and they can come together with genuine effort to resolve the bad blood .  Unfortunately though the damage has been done and there are too many deep scars which won't heal . Too many people willing to discredit others for their own personal gain , willing to use rumour and  unproven allegation to further their cause. 

    If anything this last month has proven how rotten Scottish football really is.  

    Well if you were to write a really apologetic grovelling letter; begging for forgiveness (because everything was ALL your fault) to all the managers of all the clubs in all of the leagues; as well as  Mr Doncaster, not forgetting uncle Tom Cobley and all and then arrange a pillory session in each town where a club which you have offended resides, WE may just forgive you?  But let me be the first to congratulate you on your selfless desire to atone for every other bugger that's cocked up .............Good man,      REMEMBER it's all for the greater good of Scottish Fitba.   😆 

  10. 8 minutes ago, Dele said:

    It's crazy how many grown Scottish adults can't spell Stranraer properly. 

    Really! I used to work in the village of Gaerwen on Anglesey, the next village on the road from Bangor (on the mainland) to Holyhead  (ferries to Ireland) was and indeed  still is Llanfairpwllgwyngyll, oddly enough people there have a similar problem. :)

  11. 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said:
    16 minutes ago, jaybeee said:

    Well; Rangers are just fecking wi Celtic..................ICT want their money based on where they finished in the league table (fair enough) but then want  the league voided, Doh?  Hearts simply don't want to be relegated and it seems were willing to eat all sorts of shit to avoid it and Partick are the ones I have a degree of sympathy for; but now they are getting stroppy as well, so you are spot on.................long winded way of agrreeing.

    ICT wanted restructuring to get themselves promoted.

    fair point see what happens just because of being a jock.........focus on the dosh :)  

  12. 43 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:
    3 hours ago, arabdelic said:

     They only 2 clubs who have pretended to be acting for the greater good are Rangers 'governance of the game' and Gardiner at Inverness 'didn't want to relegate teams'

    Hearts and Partick have both claimed this as well, for all that the fact they're lying about it is painfully and hilariously obvious.

    Well; Rangers are just fecking wi Celtic..................ICT want their money based on where they finished in the league table (fair enough) but then want  the league voided, Doh?  Hearts simply don't want to be relegated and it seems were willing to eat all sorts of shit to avoid it and Partick are the ones I have a degree of sympathy for; but now they are getting stroppy as well, so you are spot on.................long winded way of agrreeing.

  13. 2 minutes ago, rainbowrising said:
    11 minutes ago, jaybeee said:

    read their statement.................then apologise

    apologise?

    to dunfermline          because   

    Dunfermline would gain about £50k, ICT would lose about £175k

    If the season is voided it's wiping the results from the records, why would you get a prize for something you'd voted to cancel.

  14. 3 hours ago, arabdelic said:
    4 hours ago, NorthBank said:

    You got to love all these statements. Clyde are having a go at self-interest  while at the same time stating they would not accept a 14-14-14 or 14-14-16 which would 'significantly disadvantage' Clyde.

    Do none of these writers know what hypocrisy means?

     Clyde are agreeing with you about hypocrisy.  All clubs are voting in self interest including their own. They say why they voted the way they did. He is having a go at the clubs who have been lashing out at others voting in self interest without acknowledging they are themselves. 

     

    They only 2 clubs who have pretended to be acting for the greater good are Rangers 'governance of the game' and Gardiner at Inverness 'didn't want to relegate teams'

     

    These are the ones for the watching. 

    Do you NOT read a thread before posting...........really!

  15. 3 hours ago, Wilbur said:

    Well it's dead easy to make a statement like this when you know there's a snowball in Hell's chance of the independent inquiry being voted through.

    Moral high ground claimed at no extra cost. Such a lovely club that Aberdeen. Really nice people every one of them.

     

    The sheep don't think so :)

  16. 6 hours ago, Sparticus said:

    14 clubs in a league would be horrific and end up driving fans away.

    All this just to save a team who were going down anyway.

    Has to be the staus quo.No brainer.

    Damned if I know the answer, I favour 16 or 18, play each other home and away, I can't see how 14 could work but irrespective of which (if any) is chosen as the new model it should not happen till the season after next as Heats need to be relegated, why should they be reprieved and not the lower teams............that is just immoral, but then what would you expect from Budge?

  17. 6 hours ago, DA Baracus said:
    7 hours ago, Ric said:

    Well this is interesting, I'd always seen it written as lackie, yet it seems the correct spelling is lackey Perhaps a Scots thing?
    Seems like my overly smug correction from a few posts back is equally erroneous. :(

    I knew what you meant but I'm very pedantic.

    ye sure its no pednatic?

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