Burnieman

And "your" mob I believe, so you'll be able to return to Central Park now.

If a licenced club refuses to take part in the play-off, I would expect some serious sanctions heading their way. So the answer is no.

Did anyone ever discover what happened to the actual shield?

You're making stuff up now champ, I think you need to step away and take a deep breath.

It's not a club matter if people are on public property, it would be a Police matter. As for calling people "imbeciles" for having the audacity to want to watch their team play football or "watch some blokes kicking a ball around" as you put it, after being locked out for 9 months, well...

The EoS Third Division hasn't just been mentioned on here sunshine.

You mentioned TV, not me. If you want to rock up with a ladder feel free, nobody but a handful of people on the interwebby will judge you for it. Maybe the Govt should let people into grounds, it would be safer all round and protect yourself from accusations of attention seeking.

I'm not a big fan of Leitch, but he is on record as saying the key to fans returning is effectively start at the bottom of the game and work your way up. That was months ago. That simply isn't happening, the question has to be why. England has shown it can be done, and safely. Some LL and EoS clubs are all set-up just waiting for the green light. Instead, a political decision has been taken to tie it to Level 1 conditions, when in reality it can be done at any Level with limited crowds and mask wearing. No food or drink, come in, watch the game, go home. You can loosen up the issue of food/drink, and hospitality, based on lower Levels being reached but the basic process of entering, watching and exiting is minimal risk.

Your latter point just sums up the ridiculous situation clubs find themselves in, whilst indoor activity in levels 2 and 3 areas continues unabated. Gordon will call it "whataboutery" but it's very valid comparisons to make when football is asking for answers on admitting fans whilst shopping centres and cinemas get busy. Dave Cormack's statement last week was pretty much spot on.

Why would Morton want to set up a viewing platform? I'm not aware that football at the level we're talking about is televised. People want to watch their club, and if a handful want to watch over or through a fence, or up a ladder or what not, then it's upto them. I certainly won't judge them on it, and I'm sure they're not bothered about anyone who does.

Or they simply want to watch the game? Not everyone exists to post pics on social media.

Maybe they're not attention seeking, maybe they just want to watch a game of football. Its now been 9 months since the last games with spectators in Scotland. Meanwhile I'm currently watching games on telly with a few thousand spectators inside. Presumably safely.

If you think all decisions are based on science then you aren't paying attention. Jason Leitch has already said several times that admitting limited crowds at non league level isn't a big risk at all. He has gone quite quiet on that recently, because he's probably been told to wind his neck in on statements like that.

Sanctimonious drivel doesn't even cover it.

Just what I hearing with regards to individual clubs. Livvy we know about reducing their number to 11, others will follow to the extent there won't be enough remaining to make a league viable unless they recruit from the Amateurs. They could all move over as a group of 12 and form an EoS Third Division next season (or part of a regional Second Division).

Very very unlikely to be 3 leagues at tier 5. I suspect a league feeding into the Highland League is the likely outcome.

Go and ask them, these people are clearly desperate to watch a game of football, I would be doing exactly the same in their position. Nobody makes them turn up to peer over a fence where part of their view is obstructed, but they do. It's been 9 months. The point is of course, they're much safer inside the ground than doing this. This is another failure of Government and any consequences lie squarely at their feet. Meanwhile, Livingston (indoor) shopping centre will be mobbed today. Who is kidding who here?

This is the last season of Junior football in West Lothian.

As I was saying. Jeanfield, Haddington and Tranent eliminate LL opposition, Blackburn lose on penalties, and Colts and Berwick with narrow wins. No disrespect to Civil Service today who are a decent solid side, but we've played several much better teams in the EoS Premier this season. Let's open up the LL more and get the Pyramid moving.

Around 60 people watching over the fence at todays game. We really need this nonsense to end and to get fans back inside grounds at this level, they're safer inside.

It doesn't, but worth pointing out the strength in depth sitting below the LL since the Juniors joined the Pyramid and the need for it to open up and let the best teams play at tier 5. That's what a Pyramid is all about.

The three ex-Junior clubs 1st, 2nd and 7th. This seasons EoS Champs will probably be ex-Junior and top half of LL the following season (or licenced WoS Champ) Hopefully 2 auto promotion/relegation spots happen soon.

I'm sure every club has their share of older fans who's Saturdays were watching the game and a few pre or post match pints, a chat with pals. Many will live alone. Both of those have been shut to them for long periods this year, we should have been doing more to allow these guys a bit of normality. The risk of standing outside at a football ground is negligible.

Burnieman was asking a question and had it answered without additional tin foil hat speculation from LTL

I'm sure some clubs do that.