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Same source Friday 5th.

From the Guardian Football Daily last Thursday, the 4th.

I have read about him being referred to as such in a few sources. I thought It was pretty common usage.

He's admiring his handiwork as any Professional Hatchet Man would do. The thing about him was that he could play Football when he wanted too as well.

I watched that, there now, and I can't help thinking that Phillip Greene, the Commentator, just about stopped himself from saying "in the last fuckin' minute" rather than what he said. As I posted earlier, too soon.

Too soon

John Ateyo repeated his trick of breaking the Opposition's heart with a last minute equaliser, the following year v Ireland in a WC Qualifier in Dalymount Park. Allegedly "when the goal went in, the silence could be heard in O'Connell St."

There isn't any "official evidence" as you call it. Liverpool have no one on their staff who was around 39 years ago UEFA certainly aren't going to confirm that, because of their incompetence, spectators were put in danger. It is well documented that tickets for the "Neutral Zone" were freely on sale in downtown Brussels on the day of the match and that Juve fans and Italian ex-pats and EU Staff bought them. UEFA have blamed everyone else for every foul-up with which they have been associated, the '22 European Cup Final being only the latest in a long line. (The main, possibly the only, qualification for the Head of Security for that game was that he was a Pal of Infantino.) My overall point is that Hyssel was the proverbial Accident waiting to happen. UEFA provided all the ingredients for a disaster. -An ancient Stadium. - a "Neutral Area" with loads of Juve fans. - Inadequate policing. -Inadequate segregation. Once those ingredients were in place, all that was needed was someone kicking off and the rest was inevitable. It was only a matter of time. If not '85, then '86 or '87. After all of the disasters in Sporting Arenas, you hear stories of previous narrow escapes from similar situations. The '22 CL Final shows that if UEFA learned anything from Hyssel, which I doubt, they certainly have forgotten it. Of course the LFC fans that charged are to blame. I have never said any different, but some of the Dutch or German Ultras were no angels at the time. If they had been there, in the same circumstances, the same thing might have happened.

I can't understand your logic. You seem to be saying that the fact that there were fewer LFC fans at the '84 game than the '77 game shows that they sold their full allocation. The attendance at the game was 69,693, nearly 10,000 short of the then record attendance. That would seem to indicate that there were a substantial amount of unsold tickets. One possible explanation for this is that some tickets of an allocation were not sold and not released back to UEFA. Roma were unlikely to have any unsold tickets, particularly since the game was at their home pitch. Which brings us back to my initial statement. LFC didn't return their unsold tickets to stop them filling into the hands of Roma fans.

That area is low and in the corner, usually one of the last areas to be filled. There are a few dozen people there, up the back and the terrace above that section is full. That would seem to contradict your segregation theory.

Oh yes, but as both of us know, in any reasonably sized group of Football Supporters, there'll always be a few bad'uns. And a few, unfortunately, is all that's needed to spark something off.

I agree fully with the bolded part above. However, the Design of the Stadium, it's age and poor suitability together with the "Event Management" contributed greatly to the Death Toll If the fans had been adequately segregated and if there had been adequate escape routes from the terrace, a lot fewer, if any would have been killed ..

There's Souness's Penalty. You can see the open spaces behind him to his left.

The Root Cause of Hyssel was the previous year, when Liverpool only sold about two thirds of their allocation and held onto the rest. This resulted in big empty spaces behind the left hand goal. UEFA didn't like this, and told them that the next time they got to a final, they would have to return unsold tickets or face a fine. As a result, tickets for the Liverpool end were on sale to all-comers in downtown Brussels on the day of the match. There therefore were large contingents of Juve fans in the so-called Neutral Section, separated from the LFC fans by a flimsy fence as described above. The rest was inevitable.

George Best had been allowed home for the Christmas Holidays, but after the Burnley defeat, he was called back for the return fixture. He scored his first goal for the club.