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Stephen Flynn said today it would be someone from the holyrood group most of the newer faces are at westminster so its unlikely anyone other than Forbes is probably the freshest big name as holyrood

That was given a referendum same as Scottish independence was. Had Brexit vote had been won by Remain then I wouldn't expect it to rear its head for a good long while so not exactly the same is it?

volatility hasn't worked for you now upping that isn't going to work for you. The only road to independence is to prove we would be better off and we haven't saw it yet

WOuld you be as vocal a supporter of this if it wasn't SNP pushing this? IF this was labour for example who came up with this would you be as supportive?

HEs not a hero of mine I just didn't agree with the way he was treated. A big difference.

Didn't say it was in my post. What I said was her being a feminist makes it strange to support something that would lead to women being put in danger. It seemed to be something that was more a GREEN party priority than an SNP one. But as SNP rely on them for the indy vote and is the reason why they are in government they have to take policies that they wouldn't necessarily go for

Would Kate Forbes gather enough Support ? not sure. If its not Robertson most likely would be Swinney. But I Think Robertson is most likely

so hows that defending him. Usual negativity from nationalist. Enjoy your politics forum you will be able to say 100% of people are for independence because we stamp our feet and disagree

Unlikely

Can't talk to people on here. I didn't defend him I just didn't like the vigilante stance and Herd mentality which explains a lot judgiing by whats said on here. enjoy

not as deluded as you. You have replied twice and offered nothing.

well you must be stupid then. Not got a mortgage?

I think you will find I have researched it. As I said you read yhe beano with made up facts not open minded. Grass is greener

There's quite a lot of indy supporters against it as well though. Supporters left snp a lot of feminist groups who would be up their with nicola turned against her

I'm a unionist but that's exactly my point but the problem with most of your supporters and even a lot of your politicians it's hostility. Blackford giving it the people of Scotland every 2 mins did nothing for your case.

Well put it this way tories pay my energy bill snp tax me 21% for daring to work over time. The union gives you more security as dispite nationalists not wanting to see it 4 can borrow more than 1. I believe we get more than we put in. Blah blah don't need to hear ur claims on that. Splitting wouldn't be as simple as nationalists make out. Like any divorce, like brexit boris had to sell the fisherman down the river. Scexit is just another brexit and won't bring any benefit to ordinary people it wi be the same you didn't do it right that's not what I voted for blah blah blah

Nope because its the nationalists way to insult as soon as there is someone who disagrees. Road to indy would be through positivity and convincing people and I'm yet to see any rational debate on it. 95% from both sides is mud slinging and not facts. I mean real facts not made up by nationalists that actually don't take everything into account

Not been a junior club for 5 years thicko

Not really gender reform needed to happen but not the way the snps or as I really think it's the greens powerplay. Wouldn't surprise me if sturgeon, with being a feminist, being fully behind it in the form that was presented. There's more than just that but telling you life works in circles it's exactly the same thing that happened to labour, unless they get someone as charismatic as nicola then snp will crumble it may take 10 years but nicola leaving the leadership role is a major blow to indy as I said a lot of the average punters vote based on her and now its not going to be her

Clearly not what I said. This is why you won't get independence because you only see what you want to see. The road to independence would be through being smart and convincing not mudslinging

I didn't mean the acts but the public outcry and blame.has been the same

I'm a camelon fan

It's more of a shift toward blairite labour. Snp will crumble in the next 10 years. Angus Robertson won't have the charisma to carry snp in the way sturgeon did. Your next leader is the new Gordon brown

Indy is going down the swanny. Nicola was your best hope at it because people think nicola is snp. People fall for it and Angus Robertson is a lot less charismatic than nicola. The whole thing reminds me of labour's downfall when Blair sent the troops to Iraq. Sturgeon did it with gender reform. The next person is snps Gordon brown. Snps popularity will fall

Pitch was verti drained last week not sure wot else they are doing to it