Guest The Phoenix Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thanx, You don't need as much detail as the time. If you can narrow it down to the day and the bet, any self respecting bookmaker's employee should be able to find it on their system within minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambie's Pigeon Feed Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Last night I nipped into a Ladbrokes in Falkirk and asked the woman the price on a Thistle win, she said 7/2, I told her I hadn't checked for tonights game but for the original game on Saturday all the online bookies were 4/1 and asked why was it 7/2 tonight. She checked something on her screen and said that she would give me 4/1 and duly did. How common is that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBigstuff89 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Withdrew some money from 888.com today, just wanted to know if anyone has an account with them and the standard kind of timescale? Obviously their terms and conditions give it the usual "4-7 working days" but was wondering if anyone knew first hand. Thanks in advance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I know the laying off bets have been discussed, but I'm still fairly naive to the concept. Right now I've discovered that bet365 right now have rangers @ 10/11 for tomorrow and laying them @ 4/5. I can't check on oddschecker just now but I think that there is bound to be some other bookmakers that could offer better odds to those. But would someone give me an example of how I could lay off without losing money? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) I know the laying off bets have been discussed, but I'm still fairly naive to the concept. Right now I've discovered that bet365 right now have rangers @ 10/11 for tomorrow and laying them @ 4/5. I can't check on oddschecker just now but I think that there is bound to be some other bookmakers that could offer better odds to those. But would someone give me an example of how I could lay off without losing money? What you've said doesn't really make any sense. You can't lay bets at B365 (or at any other bookmaker) Edited January 21, 2011 by Fudge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden til i die Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Surely laying them would be the same as double chance 'Hearts and Draw'. I assume that's what he means, my sure mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Surely laying them would be the same as double chance 'Hearts and Draw'. I assume that's what he means, my sure mind. The double chance is such poor value I would be astonished if you could use that instead of laying and have a book under 100% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mid-table Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I'm a bit confused as well. On the basis you have backed Rangers at 10/11, then in order to lock in a profit you would need to either; Back the double chance (Hearts or Draw) at odds of 11/10 or better or Lay Rangers on an exchange at odds of less than 1.91 (probably 1.86 to guarantee profit if you are on 5% commission). It would be very unlikely for the odds of this game to flip sufficiently to allow a trading opportunity with an under-round, so don't hold your breath that either of those scenarios will happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I've just had a look and the best you can do is back Rangers at evens (B365) and double chance Hearts/Draw at 10/11 at Skybet or Boylesports which gives a book of 102.38% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I've just had a look and the best you can do is back Rangers at evens (B365) and double chance Hearts/Draw at 10/11 at Skybet or Boylesports which gives a book of 102.38% I did my research on it now and tried to get my head around it. I get it now. I did manage to find rangers @ 21/20 with pinnacle and 19/20 with corbett sports which would have guaranteed 100.06% so unfortunately just a bawhair off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I did my research on it now and tried to get my head around it. I get it now. I did manage to find rangers @ 21/20 with pinnacle and 19/20 with corbett sports which would have guaranteed 100.06% so unfortunately just a bawhair off. Even if you did manage to get 99.9%, you'd need to be betting thousands to make anything more than a few sheckles 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Is there an option to lay teams (double chance) on Betfred? I can't find it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue4578 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Even if you did manage to get 99.9%, you'd need to be betting thousands to make anything more than a few sheckles As a lot of people do, myself included at times when I know I can get away with it. If you're arbing, you really need to subscribe to an arbitrage alert service, as you could spend hours looking for them without finding any. Odds comparison sites are too slow to use for that purpose usually. Rebelbetting.com and oddsandbets.com (which has gone downhill in recent times) are two arb alert services, there are others if you search for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam. Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) This is a really simple question but I'm not a big gambler so I've never been in this position before. Postponed games. Do they get 'removed' from the bet or do I have to wait for the rescheduled match? I'm guessing it's the former. edit: it's an accumulator if it makes a difference. Edited January 22, 2011 by Liam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakehandsTom - DFC Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 This is a really simple question but I'm not a big gambler so I've never been in this position before. Postponed games. Do they get 'removed' from the bet or do I have to wait for the rescheduled match? I'm guessing it's the former. edit: it's an accumulator if it makes a difference. It will be, as you say, removed from the accumulator. Although, in certain instances, if the game is re-scheduled and played within a certain number of days, it would still be included in your accumulator. That said, it's more than likely that it will just be removed and if all your other selections win then you'd be able to claim your winnings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanny paddery Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 This is a really simple question but I'm not a big gambler so I've never been in this position before. Postponed games. Do they get 'removed' from the bet or do I have to wait for the rescheduled match? I'm guessing it's the former. edit: it's an accumulator if it makes a difference. It is the former, as you would have known if you looked at any of the previous pages on this thread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam. Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 It is the former, as you would have known if you looked at any of the previous pages on this thread Sorry Dad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latino Lover Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Has anyone ever had the pleasure of having a losing bet cancelled and refunded? I personally haven't and wonder if this would ever occur if the bookies made a mistake whilst it is obviously not unheard of for winning bets to be cancelled and refunded. Backed Arsenal 4 or more at 5/2 on hills and laid at 2.7 on betfair for profit either way but the same bet elsewhere on the Hills site was only 13/10 and was about 5/4 with other firms. Was worried a bit the whole night that if 4 or more came in it would be palped as the price seemed over genrous and now my optomistic side is wondering if there is any chance it will be palped and I'll get my stake back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanny paddery Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Has anyone ever had the pleasure of having a losing bet cancelled and refunded? I personally haven't and wonder if this would ever occur if the bookies made a mistake whilst it is obviously not unheard of for winning bets to be cancelled and refunded. Backed Arsenal 4 or more at 5/2 on hills and laid at 2.7 on betfair for profit either way but the same bet elsewhere on the Hills site was only 13/10 and was about 5/4 with other firms. Was worried a bit the whole night that if 4 or more came in it would be palped as the price seemed over genrous and now my optomistic side is wondering if there is any chance it will be palped and I'll get my stake back. Doesnt tend to get palpd unless it is a winner. Email them make up a story and see what happens as you have lost you cant lose out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mid-table Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Has anyone ever had the pleasure of having a losing bet cancelled and refunded? I personally haven't and wonder if this would ever occur if the bookies made a mistake whilst it is obviously not unheard of for winning bets to be cancelled and refunded. Backed Arsenal 4 or more at 5/2 on hills and laid at 2.7 on betfair for profit either way but the same bet elsewhere on the Hills site was only 13/10 and was about 5/4 with other firms. Was worried a bit the whole night that if 4 or more came in it would be palped as the price seemed over genrous and now my optomistic side is wondering if there is any chance it will be palped and I'll get my stake back. I noticed with Hills they had some strange odds, don't think it was a palp. In the Leeds v Arsenal game they had 0-0 at 17/2, but in the 1st team to score market No First Goal was 6/1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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