Thorongil Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Finally saw No Way Home yesterday. It was ok. Some things it did well. Great performance particularly from Andrew Garfield. Molina and DaFoe also excellent as usual. I found the story somewhat bland and contrived though and definitely didn’t enjoy it as much as the previous Tom Holland Spider-Man films. My mind was really wandering at times. The Multiverse could be a case of Marvel writing themselves into a corner. The Infinity Stones were enough enough of a Deus Ex Machina and I think the writing needs to stop relying on that and introduce some eucatastrophe. With time travel, Dr Strange and the multiverse, there is the nagging feeling that anything can be fixed so nothing will feel important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 On 11/02/2022 at 20:12, FairWeatherFan said: Seen it trending on Twitter. The Marvel Netflix shows are leaving at the end of the month. Presumably they'll end up on Disney+ at some point. This sucks. Just finished rewatching Daredevil and The Punisher. Jessica Jones next. These are billed as "A netflix series" in the credits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Looks good, not to mention the unexpected voice… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 55 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Looks good, not to mention the unexpected voice… Surely that wasnt who it bloody well sounded like 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Logan was a really amazing and emotional conclusion to a couple of actors' portrayals of long-time characters. Now they're back, in MCU form. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 8 hours ago, 54_and_counting said: Surely that wasnt who it bloody well sounded like If it is, and they are effectively making the non-MCU Marvel films part of the multiverse, I want to know how they will explain that Steve Rogers and Johnny Storm look like twins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 They already have. It's a multi-verse with infinite possibilities. If the same person can look differently from universe to universe, if they even exist at all. Then why can't different people look the same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: If it is, and they are effectively making the non-MCU Marvel films part of the multiverse, I want to know how they will explain that Steve Rogers and Johnny Storm look like twins. They might use the reboot f4 characters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Logan was a really amazing and emotional conclusion to a couple of actors' portrayals of long-time characters. Now they're back, in MCU form. Logan is Marmite - some like you will have loved it, personally I found it tediously boring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Logan is Marmite - some like you will have loved it, personally I found it tediously boring.That's because you're wrong 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Finally saw No Way Home yesterday. It was ok. Some things it did well. Great performance particularly from Andrew Garfield. Molina and DaFoe also excellent as usual. I found the story somewhat bland and contrived though and definitely didn’t enjoy it as much as the previous Tom Holland Spider-Man films. My mind was really wandering at times. The Multiverse could be a case of Marvel writing themselves into a corner. The Infinity Stones were enough enough of a Deus Ex Machina and I think the writing needs to stop relying on that and introduce some eucatastrophe. With time travel, Dr Strange and the multiverse, there is the nagging feeling that anything can be fixed so nothing will feel important. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 13/02/2022 at 10:41, Thorongil said: Finally saw No Way Home yesterday. It was ok. Some things it did well. Great performance particularly from Andrew Garfield. Molina and DaFoe also excellent as usual. I found the story somewhat bland and contrived though and definitely didn’t enjoy it as much as the previous Tom Holland Spider-Man films. My mind was really wandering at times. The Multiverse could be a case of Marvel writing themselves into a corner. The Infinity Stones were enough enough of a Deus Ex Machina and I think the writing needs to stop relying on that and introduce some eucatastrophe. With time travel, Dr Strange and the multiverse, there is the nagging feeling that anything can be fixed so nothing will feel important. 16 hours ago, Thorongil said: Finally saw No Way Home yesterday. It was ok. Some things it did well. Great performance particularly from Andrew Garfield. Molina and DaFoe also excellent as usual. I found the story somewhat bland and contrived though and definitely didn’t enjoy it as much as the previous Tom Holland Spider-Man films. My mind was really wandering at times. The Multiverse could be a case of Marvel writing themselves into a corner. The Infinity Stones were enough enough of a Deus Ex Machina and I think the writing needs to stop relying on that and introduce some eucatastrophe. With time travel, Dr Strange and the multiverse, there is the nagging feeling that anything can be fixed so nothing will feel important. Do you suffer from memory loss or did you forget to delete your first post? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, LiviLion said: Do you suffer from memory loss or did you forget to delete your first post? Think that’s the Maguire and Garfield versions of the post out of the way, the Holland one should be posted later 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 21 hours ago, LiviLion said: Do you suffer from memory loss or did you forget to delete your first post? The comments bit at the bottom was still showing the same post typed out but not sent, so I assumed that meant I had forgotten to post it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 On 13/02/2022 at 10:41, Thorongil said: Finally saw No Way Home yesterday. It was ok. Some things it did well. Great performance particularly from Andrew Garfield. Molina and DaFoe also excellent as usual. I found the story somewhat bland and contrived though and definitely didn’t enjoy it as much as the previous Tom Holland Spider-Man films. My mind was really wandering at times. The Multiverse could be a case of Marvel writing themselves into a corner. The Infinity Stones were enough enough of a Deus Ex Machina and I think the writing needs to stop relying on that and introduce some eucatastrophe. With time travel, Dr Strange and the multiverse, there is the nagging feeling that anything can be fixed so nothing will feel important. Time travel as a narrative device always kills stories. I find it only works when used in a silly way (back to the future) or is largely unexplained (twelve monkeys). The MCU should be silly enough to just wave away concerns about the logic. They did way more explaining than was needed in Endgame though. But it does look like it's going to go the way of Heroes or something where no one really dies, they just rewind 5 minutes and dodge the bullet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 47 minutes ago, coprolite said: Time travel as a narrative device always kills stories. I find it only works when used in a silly way (back to the future) or is largely unexplained (twelve monkeys). The MCU should be silly enough to just wave away concerns about the logic. They did way more explaining than was needed in Endgame though. But it does look like it's going to go the way of Heroes or something where no one really dies, they just rewind 5 minutes and dodge the bullet. At the moment only Natasha and Tony are really dead. And I wonder about Natasha. When Hulk clicked who’s to say she didn’t come back to life but found herself lying at the bottom of a cliff on Planet Vormir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Thorongil said: At the moment only Natasha and Tony are really dead. And I wonder about Natasha. When Hulk clicked who’s to say she didn’t come back to life but found herself lying at the bottom of a cliff on Planet Vormir. I think taking Disney to court might have settled that issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 hours ago, coprolite said: I think taking Disney to court might have settled that issue. They settled and not long after that you had Feige announcing a project they're working on together that's not linked to Black Widow. I wouldn't rule anything out with variants in the mix. Just wouldn't expect anything longstanding since Florence Pugh is obviously being primed to be the new Black Widow long term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Thorongil said: At the moment only Natasha and Tony are really dead. And I wonder about Natasha. When Hulk clicked who’s to say she didn’t come back to life but found herself lying at the bottom of a cliff on Planet Vormir. Surely they aren't stupid to have her just sitting on vomir waiting on a lift home Plus she died, like her body was killed etc, all endgame hulk did was reverse the people that were snapped out of existence, the snap didnt kill people it just wiped them, Plus disney have an absolute f**k ton of other well liked characters they can use, ive no doubt at some point we'll see a different universe version of tony stark (tom cruise rumours for MoM are a good laugh) but they don't need to go back, there are so many other people they can use 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, 54_and_counting said: Surely they aren't stupid to have her just sitting on vomir waiting on a lift home Plus she died, like her body was killed etc, all endgame hulk did was reverse the people that were snapped out of existence, the snap didnt kill people it just wiped them, Plus disney have an absolute f**k ton of other well liked characters they can use, ive no doubt at some point we'll see a different universe version of tony stark (tom cruise rumours for MoM are a good laugh) but they don't need to go back, there are so many other people they can use Bruce did say though that when he snapped his fingers he was specifically trying to bring her back. But I don’t disagree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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