paul-r-cfc Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 No surprises there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarley Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 All I'm seeing are excuses. Just hurry up! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 All I'm seeing are excuses. Just hurry up! I'm not a reader of the books but it at least sounds like a bit of honesty, fair play for that tbh. Better than rushing it and ending up with some shite no one will enjoy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Scary to think he's got another one after this. Doubt we'll ever see that one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 If he put half as much effort into writing the book instead of excuses, it would be halfway to the printers by now!!! Useless c**t!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Think he's just milking the fame & attention as long as he can. Bet he'll have 'A Dream of Spring' out the same year GoT ends. Which is what another couple of years? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Think the plan is the last season will be in 2018 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Nooka Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 GRRM has been acting like this since about 2001, it's taken the TV show to expose his perpetual procrastination. It's even arguable that he never actually finished ADWD. Guys a knob but fan boy nerds just lap up his pish! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiJock Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Think he's just milking the fame & attention as long as he can. Bet he'll have 'A Dream of Spring' out the same year GoT ends. Which is what another couple of years? No chance. Assuming Winds of Winter gets finished at some point this year, that will have taken him 5 years to write. The previous book took 6 years so I can't imagine him finishing the whole series off in 2 years just to match the tv show. Won't happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiJock Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 GRRM has been acting like this since about 2001, it's taken the TV show to expose his perpetual procrastination. It's even arguable that he never actually finished ADWD. Guys a knob but fan boy nerds just lap up his pish! Some see procrastination I see a writer struggling with a story. The books are too big and the story is moving too slowly. He clearly isn't enjoying writing it like he did when he started, and seems to get lost in an ocean of characters rather than just moving things along. Not sure why his lack of progress annoys people so much though - if you don't like waiting then go read something else. Or you can watch the tv show which will tell you the big points of the story anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Nooka Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Some see procrastination I see a writer struggling with a story. The books are too big and the story is moving too slowly. He clearly isn't enjoying writing it like he did when he started, and seems to get lost in an ocean of characters rather than just moving things along. Not sure why his lack of progress annoys people so much though - if you don't like waiting then go read something else. Or you can watch the tv show which will tell you the big points of the story anyway. Just look at the guys blog if you need to understand this. All the guy does is shill his merchandise, Wild cards, his cinema and countless other rehashes of material written nearly 20 years ago.......and lets not forget the thousands of words written every year regarding NFL and the Hugos. He got lucky with the first few ASOIAF books and he has definitely made the best of it, it's nothing new to think he's struggling with the story, it was pretty evident 10 years ago when he was forced to release AFFC. He had no idea how to resolve his plot lines back then and instead of attempting to he just introduced even more. He's now become a con-man surrounded by sycophants that give his delusional nonsense some sense of veracity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiJock Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just look at the guys blog if you need to understand this. All the guy does is shill his merchandise, Wild cards, his cinema and countless other rehashes of material written nearly 20 years ago.......and lets not forget the thousands of words written every year regarding NFL and the Hugos. He got lucky with the first few ASOIAF books and he has definitely made the best of it, it's nothing new to think he's struggling with the story, it was pretty evident 10 years ago when he was forced to release AFFC. He had no idea how to resolve his plot lines back then and instead of attempting to he just introduced even more. He's now become a con-man surrounded by sycophants that give his delusional nonsense some sense of veracity. To clarify - I've been a fan of the books for years and have read the blog for years as well. I think fans can accuse him of writing too slowly and not keeping up with initial high standards but thats about it. Surely it can't be that surprising to see an author driven by monetary gain and award gathering? I don't read any of his posts about the hugos or NFL (or the cinema) but I don't believe for a second that if he stopped writing them then the series would be magically years further on. I'd describe his approach to writing the series as a catastrophic failure at this point, but this is his approach and he won't be changing it now. You're free not to like the series or the author, but if you want to read the series then this is the writing process that produces it. There are large numbers of fantasy writers out there who are far more prolific but write utter shite and publish without a backward thought. Bad writers who publish quickly suffer far less grief from their fans, but who wants to read a bad version of ASOIAF? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Nooka Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 To clarify - I've been a fan of the books for years and have read the blog for years as well. I think fans can accuse him of writing too slowly and not keeping up with initial high standards but thats about it. Surely it can't be that surprising to see an author driven by monetary gain and award gathering? I don't read any of his posts about the hugos or NFL (or the cinema) but I don't believe for a second that if he stopped writing them then the series would be magically years further on. I'd describe his approach to writing the series as a catastrophic failure at this point, but this is his approach and he won't be changing it now. You're free not to like the series or the author, but if you want to read the series then this is the writing process that produces it. There are large numbers of fantasy writers out there who are far more prolific but write utter shite and publish without a backward thought. Bad writers who publish quickly suffer far less grief from their fans, but who wants to read a bad version of ASOIAF? Ah, but is a bad version with an ending? I'm thankful to GRRM for getting me back to the fantasy genre where I've discovered some great authors (Abercrombie, Weeks, Kearney, Lawrence)....BUT, I can't help but also feel let down, although I only started reading the books circa 2009/10 so I've not had to wait quite as long as some, he seems to do everything except work. Whilst he is "not your bitch" I still feel he is living the high life almost entirely thanks to the books people bought with the implicit promise that the series would have an ending. GRRM is never going to finish the books, he knows it, his publishers know it, rational fans know it, yet he continues to try and 'con' the gullible into believing otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiJock Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Ah, but is a bad version with an ending? I'm thankful to GRRM for getting me back to the fantasy genre where I've discovered some great authors (Abercrombie, Weeks, Kearney, Lawrence)....BUT, I can't help but also feel let down, although I only started reading the books circa 2009/10 so I've not had to wait quite as long as some, he seems to do everything except work. Whilst he is "not your bitch" I still feel he is living the high life almost entirely thanks to the books people bought with the implicit promise that the series would have an ending. GRRM is never going to finish the books, he knows it, his publishers know it, rational fans know it, yet he continues to try and 'con' the gullible into believing otherwise. Abercrombie is awesome. Who would you recommend out of the other 3? not tried them yet. I've been waiting for GRRM a lot longer, and a long time back we used to get regular progress updates about his writing and guesstimates about publication dates for unfinished books (which he then failed to meet). He stopped giving updates about the work as people got annoyed he kept missing his self-imposed timelines. Now he annoys people by not updating at all instead. Honestly not sure which approach is better. I'm a rational (ish) fan and assuming his health holds up I believe he'll finish the series. But he'll be years behind the end of the tv show and it will likely be an anti-climax. I also think the last book will need to be split in 2 when he gets to it as he'll write far too much. Of course, if the next book is a bloodbath and he kills half the main characters, the writing will get a lot simpler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Nooka Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Abercrombie is awesome. Who would you recommend out of the other 3? not tried them yet. I've been waiting for GRRM a lot longer, and a long time back we used to get regular progress updates about his writing and guesstimates about publication dates for unfinished books (which he then failed to meet). He stopped giving updates about the work as people got annoyed he kept missing his self-imposed timelines. Now he annoys people by not updating at all instead. Honestly not sure which approach is better. I'm a rational (ish) fan and assuming his health holds up I believe he'll finish the series. But he'll be years behind the end of the tv show and it will likely be an anti-climax. I also think the last book will need to be split in 2 when he gets to it as he'll write far too much. Of course, if the next book is a bloodbath and he kills half the main characters, the writing will get a lot simpler Brent Weeks Night Angel trilogy was good fun if a bit deus ex machina(y). I still enjoyed it and would recommend it, it's about an assassin with the power of immortality....but it comes with a catch. Paul Kearney wrote the Monarchies of God series which has werewolves and wizards amongst others. Pretty dark at times but still a great read even if the ending feels a little rushed. You can pick this up in 2 omnibus editions, originally it was released as 5 books. He also wrote the Macht trilogy which is kind of alternate reality Roman/Greek type setting with 3 very good books following a farmers rise through the miltary ranks. Mark Lawrence has written the darkest fantasy series I've read yet in the Broken Empire trilogy, his protagonist would probably be the baddie in most fantasy books but, inexplicably, you find yourself warming to Jorg Ancrath the Prince of Thorns. Do not read this if you need the bad guys to get their dues or if you're looking for heroic deeds. I'd recommend any of them really, just whatever you find easiest to get your hands on. I got the Weeks and Lawrence books from my local library. Kearneys books I bought for my Kindle. Edited January 5, 2016 by Tommy Nooka 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellboy1991 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Mark Lawrence books are outstanding. Have you read the next 3, The Red Queens War? If not you should. Outstanding. Also if you like Weekes, Lawrence, GRRM and the likes you should pick up John Gwynnes books, Malice, Valour & Ruin. Outstanding, best series I have read to date. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Book forum for this pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Unbelievable, you don't even need to use the 'last book I read" thread or whatever it's called. There's a specific ASOIAF THE BOOKS thread. Book wankers. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I love all these Kit Harrington interviews appearing with him saying Jon Snow is dead, whilst still having the hair he cannot cut according to his contract. Of course he is dead. Meanwhile, here is a random image I found. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Watched the end of series 5 again on my horrendous commute this morning. Still tragic, but they're trying too hard to convince us he's deid now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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