GingerSaint Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 £20 on Plymouth v Port Vale (19/20) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Could always do it in a shop, I guess Or Betfair, although it's been reported recently that even they have closed a few accounts that have seen a substancial profit within a short space of time which if true is pretty sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave258 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 You'd also have betfair's commission to take into account, wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambie's Pigeon Feed Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 Lambie, if your mates have given you money for this are you doing it as a £100 bet rather than £20 to start with (or whatever amount the cumulative total your mates have given you is)? What bookie are you using, as from what I've heard most will be blocking your account or limiting how much you can put on even after only a few moderately large wins like you have had. 3 guys in work gave me a fiver and I used £15 of my own cash so started out with £30 this time. I do it on Paddy Power who I have had an account with for years. Although I'd never bet anything like the big gingles I was towards the end of my first streak but they paid out no bother. I already withdrew that one. Lumped it all on Morton and Arsenal (-1) souble today. I've heard about bookies limiting big players but I always assumed that was people betting thousands? The £1250 I withdrew will be a drop in the ocean for one of the biggest online bookies surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 3 guys in work gave me a fiver and I used £15 of my own cash so started out with £30 this time. I do it on Paddy Power who I have had an account with for years. Although I'd never bet anything like the big gingles I was towards the end of my first streak but they paid out no bother. I already withdrew that one. Lumped it all on Morton and Arsenal (-1) souble today. I've heard about bookies limiting big players but I always assumed that was people betting thousands? The £1250 I withdrew will be a drop in the ocean for one of the biggest online bookies surely? You'd be surprised. I post on another forum where a guy that had mainly been a losing punter (in the region of £50 per month) and after two decent sized wins (£1000+) within a short space of time, Hills closed his account. Not sure why because as you say that is simply a drop in the ocean for a massive high steet bookies, perhaps they thought he had come up with a full proof formula. And Dave, even with commission on Betfair, more often than not you're getting the best price. For instance, a £100 single on Everton today at Betfair returns £208, minus commission is £202.60. Best price on Hills is evens, so you're still up compared to a high street bookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambie's Pigeon Feed Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 You'd be surprised. I post on another forum where a guy that had mainly been a losing punter (in the region of £50 per month) and after two decent sized wins (£1000+) within a short space of time, Hills closed his account. Not sure why because as you say that is simply a drop in the ocean for a massive high steet bookies, perhaps they thought he had come up with a full proof formula. And Dave, even with commission on Betfair, more often than not you're getting the best price. For instance, a £100 single on Everton today at Betfair returns £208, minus commission is £202.60. Best price on Hills is evens, so you're still up compared to a high street bookie. I assume you can withdraw your cash though? Ie you bet £500 and win £1,000, the bookies have had enough of you and decide to stop you using them, you can still take out the £1,000 right, they can't keep your winnings can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I assume you can withdraw your cash though? Ie you bet £500 and win £1,000, the bookies have had enough of you and decide to stop you using them, you can still take out the £1,000 right, they can't keep your winnings can they? Reputable ones (not BWin) do. Betfair 'til I die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishBhoy Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Surely it is not in Betfairs best interests to close winning accounts? Thats where they make their money from. They need people on the site to be winning as for every winner there is also a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I assume you can withdraw your cash though? Ie you bet £500 and win £1,000, the bookies have had enough of you and decide to stop you using them, you can still take out the £1,000 right, they can't keep your winnings can they? With most sites yes, it isn't a problem. They will let you take your winnings but will either seriously restrict your maximum stake (a big favourite on 365) or just close your account. At the end of the day, a bookie is there to make money so doesn't want you taking a decent chunk out within a short space of time. If you want a good example of a bookie taking your bet but keeping your winnings, just type in Bwin complaints on Google. I had my account closed by them a few years back for having the audacity of winning around £300 from a double. Think I got the money back in the end. but it was a royal pain in the arse. Surely it is not in Betfairs best interests to close winning accounts? Thats where they make their money from. They need people on the site to be winning as for every winner there is also a loser. It shouldn't be, no. I play a lot of poker on Betfair as I like the set up on there and it's normally regular players on there so you get to know how certain players play their hand. I play sit and go, double or nothing (either $33 or $54 a game normally) and it pays the top five players. It's not double or nothing though, the extra $3 or $4 goes to Betfair. Ten players in a game, it certainly adds up. I'm surprised it took them as long as it did to introduce an In Play tool bar at the top of the home page. Of course they want you to cash out of a bet, it means they get double the commission. When you sit down and think about it, it's actually quite scary how much power Betfair actually have. I've looked at moving some of my lays over to BetDAQ and just now finding the liquidity is easy enough (I'm not a massive stake punter) but I'll be looking to move into that sort of bracket within the next three to five years so I'm sort of stuck when it comes to that. If people are losing a massive amount of their earnings just now it doesn't bode well for people like me looking to move into the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I'm choking to try this but i'm too big of a poof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambie's Pigeon Feed Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 With most sites yes, it isn't a problem. They will let you take your winnings but will either seriously restrict your maximum stake (a big favourite on 365) or just close your account. At the end of the day, a bookie is there to make money so doesn't want you taking a decent chunk out within a short space of time. If you want a good example of a bookie taking your bet but keeping your winnings, just type in Bwin complaints on Google. I had my account closed by them a few years back for having the audacity of winning around £300 from a double. Think I got the money back in the end. but it was a royal pain in the arse. It shouldn't be, no. I play a lot of poker on Betfair as I like the set up on there and it's normally regular players on there so you get to know how certain players play their hand. I play sit and go, double or nothing (either $33 or $54 a game normally) and it pays the top five players. It's not double or nothing though, the extra $3 or $4 goes to Betfair. Ten players in a game, it certainly adds up. I'm surprised it took them as long as it did to introduce an In Play tool bar at the top of the home page. Of course they want you to cash out of a bet, it means they get double the commission. When you sit down and think about it, it's actually quite scary how much power Betfair actually have. I've looked at moving some of my lays over to BetDAQ and just now finding the liquidity is easy enough (I'm not a massive stake punter) but I'll be looking to move into that sort of bracket within the next three to five years so I'm sort of stuck when it comes to that. If people are losing a massive amount of their earnings just now it doesn't bode well for people like me looking to move into the market. whit mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerSaint Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 £20 on Plymouth v Port Vale (19/20) 2-0 win returns me £39. Looking at Palermo v Inter Milan at Evens Inter Milan (-1) v Trabzonspor at 23/20. Palermo are rank but I haven't seen much of Inter so I might just leave it until Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Started this yesterday. 20 quid double on Morton and southampton returned 66 quid. Looked at fulham today but may wait till champs league or nextvweekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEY_SIDNEY Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 20 on norwich fulham double today. see how we fair. regarding OP..... brilliant mate, very chuffed for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambie's Pigeon Feed Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 Sodding Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I...kind of started this yesterday...won £60 on an accy, so stuck £30 quid on Napoli last night at evens which took me to £60, stuck £60 on Inter tonight at 11/10 so if that comes up will take me to £126....here's hoping Inter do palermo tonight. I'm not much of a gambler, i can see myself shitting out at £126 if it comes up tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fueradejuego Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Went for £9.75 on Athletic Bilbao tonight away to Espanyol at 2.8 - All that was left in one of my accounts online. Bet more in hope than expectation. Bilbao still adjusting to Bielsa but Espanyol have lost a lot of players over the past season and the squad is very young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Well b*****ding useless inter just bust my first attempt at the grand. Was my 3rd bet and had 85 pound on it. Prob start again with the champions league this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Well b*****ding useless inter just bust my first attempt at the grand. Was my 3rd bet and had 85 pound on it. Prob start again with the champions league this week Snap.....fucking Inter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEY_SIDNEY Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 pointless me even puttin that £20 on it lol. not even one winner outta 2 haha. Here goes again for Champions League Week. I feel this thread could become very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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