Rab B Nesbit Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Why is this thread not being given attention on here when all this is going on? I honestly assumed Duckenfield was dead until i noticed this but what has come out in past few days has been huge. Not sure how to feel about him from hearing about his evidence, i hope all the blame for the disaster doesn't fall entirely on him and doubt that would give any of the families much closure on the events As Waldo says it's been put out there any comments etc on the internet could harm the case so it's probably best not really to say much about it. Hopefully all will be resolved soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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~~~ Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Interesting, I wonder if Liverpool are doing anything or if they'll just pretend it didn't happened http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/30/juventus-fa-heysel-wreath-liverpool?CMP=share_btn_tw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Pretend it didn't happen and start another campaign for Hillsborough justice IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Justice for Heysel campaign set to soar with various rallies petitions and of course celebrity matches and singles released to highlight the need to bring the murdering Liverpool fans to justice, I have no doubt John Bishop, Stevie G , Robbie Williams and co will be all over this... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Gerry & The Pacemakers will release a version of The Rezillos Someones gonna get their head kicked in tonight. Edited March 30, 2015 by Sergeant Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36138337 Jury has decided the fans were unlawfully killed and there were failings from the police, FA and SWFC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36138337 Jury has decided the fans were unlawfully killed and there were failings from the police, FA and SWFC. Sare yin all round. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Take it from a Wednesday POV it's to do with the stewards being incompetent? Not like the actual stadium layout or turnstile availability? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Sare yin all round. I had a cursory look over the evidence for the failings and it is pretty damning for everyone involved. It seems pretty obvious with hindsight the stadium was never safe and the police never managed the situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Take it from a Wednesday POV it's to do with the stewards being incompetent? Not like the actual stadium layout or turnstile availability? Stadium was unsafe and they knew it was, also there was problems with ticketing which they controlled. Engineers also never carried out proper checks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Very surprised fans have been absolved of blame though. Nobody was forcing them to crush others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Very surprised fans have been absolved of blame though. Nobody was forcing them to crush others. I think they blame has been apportioned to the police as they never managed the flow of people into the stadium. As the fans were let in through the gate the police should have directed them to other pens but didn't. I think it is one of those things were you can blame the fans but if there was proper crowd control it would have been avoided. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Very surprised fans have been absolved of blame though. Nobody was forcing them to crush others. So am I, but I don't think your second sentence is valid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I think they blame has been apportioned to the police as they never managed the flow of people into the stadium. As the fans were let in through the gate the police should have directed them to other pens but didn't. I think it is one of those things were you can blame the fans but if there was proper crowd control it would have been avoided. Who started the crushing outside that forced the police to make the mistake of opening the gates? How the fans can be absolved of any blame is beyond me and smacks of an attempt to please them and finally put the debate to bed -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I think they blame has been apportioned to the police as they never managed the flow of people into the stadium. As the fans were let in through the gate the police should have directed them to other pens but didn't. I think it is one of those things were you can blame the fans but if there was proper crowd control it would have been avoided. Exactly this. How can the fans be blamed? If anyones been in a crowd surge then they will know there is not much you can do about the direction you move in. The event wasn't managed properly and that killed 96 people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Very surprised fans have been absolved of blame though. Nobody was forcing them to crush others. You're right of course but it was obvious this was going to be the outcome from the moment the inquest was announced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) There's footage on YouTube of the CCTV at the Leppings Lane end from about half 2 to just after 3. It shows the side gates being opened on 3 occasions. It's surreal, each time like a liquid flow of people aiming for pens 3 and 4. Edited April 26, 2016 by TheScarf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) The thing is you can blame the fans until you are blue in the face but it doesn't detract from the failures of the police, the FA and the football club - it was a disaster waiting to happen. I do wonder if there will be criminal cases now, I suspect this is not the end of it yet. eta: Following today's verdicts, the CPS confirms it will now begin considering criminal charges over Hillsborough Edited April 26, 2016 by NewBlue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Snelders Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Who started the crushing outside that forced the police to make the mistake of opening the gates? How the fans can be absolved of any blame is beyond me and smacks of an attempt to please them and finally put the debate to bed Nah, look at the jury's conclusion to question 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-merseyside-36102998 Full conclusions to all questions on here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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