Henrik's tongue Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I do. It's fucking shite. Fantastic album though I'm sure you agree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsene Parcelie Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Ultimately, this whole contracts saga will determine which version of the club will be sanctioned and one way or another RFC1872 will be buried, and Sevco2012 will carry on. Once this is over, we'll have the reaction and veiled threats from the usual suspects, the media will go into overdrive, the phone-ins will be more unbearable than usual, and this will last until the league reconstruction proposals are put in place, and then the whole circus will start again. Great, i'ntit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Here's the list of possible sanctions:- Some are obviously unable to be applied, but others could still be. 1.4, 1.7 and 1.12 are the key ones though. G6.1.3 impose a fine; G6.1.18 make such other direction, sanction or disposal, not expressly provided for in these Rules, as it shall think appropriate; and/or make such order as to expenses, including the expenses of the Board and/or, as the case may be, Commission and/or other party, as it thinks appropriate. The last option will save the RFFFFFFFFFFFFF a few quid, anyway. I read it as saying "anything we feel like doing". Big fuckoff fine and on yer way, methinks. They already have that option. I'm not sure what else they can do, they seem to have a fairly comprehensive list of possible sanctions. But it will probably be a big fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 They already have that option. I'm not sure what else they can do, they seem to have a fairly comprehensive list of possible sanctions. But it will probably be a big fine. It was thought back in tha day that the possible sanctions were fairly comprehensive, but it didn't stop the Orcs squealing like pigs when the authorities tried to do them a favour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 They already have that option. I'm not sure what else they can do, they seem to have a fairly comprehensive list of possible sanctions. But it will probably be a big fine. Fine for who? Rangers or Sevco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 G6.1.12 withdraw or withhold the award of a title or award; about 5 of those I believe, titles 'won' during the dual contract EBT days. Get them stripped / annulled. G6.1.18 make such other direction, sanction or disposal, not expressly provided for in these Rules, as it shall think appropriate; and/or make such order as to expenses, including the expenses of the Board and/or, as the case may be, Commission and/or other party, as it thinks appropriate. Could have great fun with this. 'The club colours must be changed to pink and lilac stripes with frilly collars and cuffs' 'chairman, club manager and club captain must kneel in centre circle prior to each game for a season in a begging forgiveness gesture for the OldCo clubs' sins of the past' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Fine for who? Rangers or Sevco Rangers, after all The Rangers are a new club/company/both and can't be responsible for the previous club's/company's/both/one man's misdemeanours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 G6.1.12 withdraw or withhold the award of a title or award; about 5 of those I believe, titles 'won' during the dual contract EBT days. Get them stripped / annulled. G6.1.18 make such other direction, sanction or disposal, not expressly provided for in these Rules, as it shall think appropriate; and/or make such order as to expenses, including the expenses of the Board and/or, as the case may be, Commission and/or other party, as it thinks appropriate. Could have great fun with this. 'The club colours must be changed to pink and lilac stripes with frilly collars and cuffs' 'chairman, club manager and club captain must kneel in centre circle prior to each game for a season in a begging forgiveness gesture for the OldCo clubs' sins of the past' Seems a bit Islamic - have we not got enough problems with religion in Scottish football? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Rangers, after all The Rangers are a new club/company/both and can't be responsible for the previous club's/company's/both/one man's misdemeanours. Charlie had to accept any OldCo punishments as a condition of getting a licence to get NewCo's season underway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Charlie had to accept any OldCo punishments as a condition of getting a licence to get NewCo's season underway. How's he going to wriggle out of this then? He can hardly rail against any punishment if he's already agreed to accept it. This could be fun. (By the way, the post of mine which you quoted wasn't entirely serious.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelegendthatis Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 G6.1.12 withdraw or withhold the award of a title or award;about 5 of those I believe, titles 'won' during the dual contract EBT days. Get them stripped / annulled.G6.1.18 make such other direction, sanction or disposal, not expressly provided for in these Rules, as it shall think appropriate; and/or make such order as to expenses, including the expenses of the Board and/or, as the case may be, Commission and/or other party, as it thinks appropriate.Could have great fun with this. 'The club colours must be changed to pink and lilac stripes with frilly collars and cuffs''chairman, club manager and club captain must kneel in centre circle prior to each game for a season in a begging forgiveness gesture for the OldCo clubs' sins of the past' There must be a significant penalty for the directors of that once great club. The men who "sold the jerseys". Lord Nimmo Smith in his great wisdom should insist they dress in a certain way when in any public place. The dress code will be: A white zuchetto A white mozetto Red shoes A gold pectoral cross A gold Fisherman's ring A pallium (also known as a sash in some circles). All of these are available from the family tailors Gammarelli. I know it all sounds a bit blingy, but these are guys who for years were dressed in mohair by Slaters. The team will also have to change its colours from Blue to Medici blue, red and yellow with white collar. We can call them the Govan Guard. Wouldn't it be wonderful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic Rebel. Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 A wee burdy is telling me they are guilty,Green,Sourpuss,Murray,Smiff,10 years in Bar L,Craigy Bhoy to join forces with Alex Salmond in freedom for Scotland,Peter Lawwell takes over from Platini. Oh and 5 titles go to the Glasgow Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 The word was existing, not new ones. The SPL wanted us to give up the right to appeal the tribunal, Rangers refused this and rightly so the option to appeal was left open. And what were these existing punishments which he accepted? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 The word was existing, not new ones. The SPL wanted us to give up the right to appeal the tribunal, Rangers refused this and rightly so the option to appeal was left open. Why would they appeal when "They've got no jurisdiction. We've never played in the SPL"? Anyhoo, "They're MY trophies. I bought them." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Fantastic album though I'm sure you agree. The Clash are amongst the very greatest - absolutely love them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasda Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 IF players have been improperly registered then the annulled games and the titles sanctions are both a given. That applies whether or not it was an error. If it's deemed to be intentional then we have some interesting stuff. I remember one guy who was banned sine die for this in the amateurs (they deemed it intentional rather than an administration error) and the sanctions can be as personal as that. Of course they might get away with it?! Imagine that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Yes you did, you said ESPN planted microphones on ra bears "When you have a big furry microphone boom stuck up the arses of 50 fans, this is what it sounds like" It is common practice when broadcasting football matches to have at least 10 or more microphones pointing towards the field.This is so you can hear the ball being kicked and also the groans from a knuckle crunching tackle.There can be as many as 30 plus microphones at a match depending on it's importance. The microphones during the game are lowered and and raised according to where the ball is on the field of play,this also helps if you are watching in Dolby digital 5.1 surround sound to give you an illusion that you are actually at the game. I did not watch that particular game but I assume the ball was near where the fans where singing their usual banter at that particular time. First point is that the fans should not have sang what was banned and never mind blaming anyone for any such accusation of turning up the microphones,if the fans decide at any moment to open up and sing as loud as they can then the microphone will amplify the fans vocal activities at full voice and if the ball is in the vicinity of the fans it is going to be LOUD through the telly for certain. I am a sound engineer and have worked on TV productions,this is no ones fault but the fans for singing banned songs at the top of their voices at the time the ball was probably near them as the volume was raised to pick up the sound of the ball being kicked.Unfortunately for Rangers it has highlighted that their fans couldn't gives two fucks either way and will sing whatever they want,when they want,and to whoever they want and will probably never go away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We have been going on and on about title stripping carried out by the SPL ! So what happens if they are guilty tomorrow ! who is going to strip them of their League & Scottish Cups ? is this where the SFA come in as well to compound their misery ? The SPL do not have the authority to strip Rangers of cups but the SFA do. Also in hindsight have the SPL & SFA actually thought this through completely ? if found guilty they have changed their rules to such effect that the club according to them did not die.Could this open the doors in Europe for UEFA to step in if European clubs wish to pursue Rangers FC for monies lost to a club that fielded illegally registered players in European competitions ?. Our associations have bent rules & regulations to keep Rangers FC alive ? "apparently" but FIFA & UEFA have not changed their rules to accommodate the death of a club from a backwater league and may backfire on the club they tried to keep alive if European clubs decide to take action on monies lost to Rangers FC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 IF players have been improperly registered then the annulled games and the titles sanctions are both a given. That applies whether or not it was an error. If it's deemed to be intentional then we have some interesting stuff. I remember one guy who was banned sine die for this in the amateurs (they deemed it intentional rather than an administration error) and the sanctions can be as personal as that. Of course they might get away with it?! Imagine that. That's very clearly what should happen, however I do not see any appetite from any Scottish football government bodies to take on what is clearly a very belligerent new club. Anything other than this we may as well chuck watching the game here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain kirk Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Is there anyone else who doesn't give a f**k about this or is it just me? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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