Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!

[captain kirk]

Or, best of all, a negative, discredited agenda.

A negative discredited anti rangers ,Celtic backed agenda!

[weirdcal]

A negative discredited anti rangers ,Celtic backed agenda!

*insert shifty eyes gif here*

[captain kirk]

Not clicking on to the link as i am on my phone. 1 question...does he give any indication when the miners families will get their money

Just for you seeing as you re on your phone...

Rangers Declare On Official Website that the Company = The Club!

A short post – yes I know, I have promised that before, but this is!

In the continuing saga of whether or not “Rangers” today is the same as Rangers last year and Rangers in 1872 and 1899, there have been many opinions expressed.

Rangers makes clear in its website and in all public pronouncements that it believes that it remains – Then, Now and Forever.

As we know, from monotonous repetition, the club is a collection of assets which was sold by the administrators of Rangers Football Club PLC to a Sevco company (a dispute coming soon to a court near you). The “assets and business” of the club were thus separate from the company which owned the assets.

And so the assets and business made its way to Sevco Scotland Ltd, which changed its name to The Rangers Football Club Ltd and which in turn was wholly acquired by Rangers International Football Club PLC.

That is described, erroneously, as the “holding company” which owns the company which owns the football club.

The football club, we are told, is most definitely NOT the limited company.

Would it surprise people to find out that there is a legal document which defines “The Club” as The Rangers Football Club Ltd?

Would it be even more surprising to find that document is on the Rangers website!

The terms and conditions for season ticket sales for 2012-2013 can be seen here. Terms & Conditions 2012

On page 7 we see, in the section dealing with conditions of entry the following:-

“This Smartcard (“this Card”) is and remains the property of The Rangers Football Club Ltd (“the Club”) and must be produced on demand by the Smartcard holder named herein (“the holder”) or any person authorised by the holder to use this Card at a particular match (“the nominee”) to an official of the Club in stewarding or associated duties at Ibrox Stadium (“the Stadium”).” (Emphasis added)

[bennett]

Just for you seeing as you re on your phone...

Rangers Declare On Official Website that the Company = The Club!

A short post – yes I know, I have promised that before, but this is!

In the continuing saga of whether or not “Rangers” today is the same as Rangers last year and Rangers in 1872 and 1899, there have been many opinions expressed.

Rangers makes clear in its website and in all public pronouncements that it believes that it remains – Then, Now and Forever.

As we know, from monotonous repetition, the club is a collection of assets which was sold by the administrators of Rangers Football Club PLC to a Sevco company (a dispute coming soon to a court near you). The “assets and business” of the club were thus separate from the company which owned the assets.

And so the assets and business made its way to Sevco Scotland Ltd, which changed its name to The Rangers Football Club Ltd and which in turn was wholly acquired by Rangers International Football Club PLC.

That is described, erroneously, as the “holding company” which owns the company which owns the football club.

The football club, we are told, is most definitely NOT the limited company.

Would it surprise people to find out that there is a legal document which defines “The Club” as The Rangers Football Club Ltd?

Would it be even more surprising to find that document is on the Rangers website!

The terms and conditions for season ticket sales for 2012-2013 can be seen here. Terms & Conditions 2012

On page 7 we see, in the section dealing with conditions of entry the following:-

“This Smartcard (“this Card”) is and remains the property of The Rangers Football Club Ltd (“the Club”) and must be produced on demand by the Smartcard holder named herein (“the holder”) or any person authorised by the holder to use this Card at a particular match (“the nominee”) to an official of the Club in stewarding or associated duties at Ibrox Stadium (“the Stadium”).” (Emphasis added)

You used to write the scripts for falcon crest, didn't you?

[cyderspaceman]

Not clicking on to the link as i am on my phone. 1 question...does he give any indication when the miners families will get their money

Paul McConville has never settled anything in his life. You only have to ask the miners about that.Edit too add,you just beat me to it,8

Apparently they did get their money.

It was accepted at the Tribunal by the Law Society and by the Tribunal that there was “no question of dishonesty”, and that “every penny of clients’ funds had been accounted for”.

[captain kirk]

You used to write the scripts for falcon crest, didn't you?

Belter.

[captain kirk]

Apparently they did get their money.

Also he was never banned ,or struck off.

[youngsy]

Speaking of Celtic bloggers looks like PMc has settled the club / company bullshit rangers have been spewing, thanks to rangers

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/rangers-declare-on-official-website-that-the-company-the-club/

What's that got to do with rangers official site calling the company and club the same thing?

I was replying about the person you quoted, Paul McConville. A person that i personally don't give any particular credence to after his behaviour regarding those miners families, hope that sits well with you, if not then too bad.

[captain kirk]

I was replying about the person you quoted, Paul McConville. A person that i personally don't give any particular credence to after his behaviour regarding those miners families, hope that sits well with you, if not then too bad.

Remind us who Green is selling his shares to again?

[bennett]

Treading a dangerous line there son with that sort of stuff, you should retract that before it lands on his in box ?

What's he going to do?

[youngsy]

Also he was never banned ,or struck off.

Aye,he's a real pargon of virtue isn't he.http://www.ssdt.org.uk/findings/finding_item.asp?LTfindingID=544 As for asking about who Green is selling his shares to,do you think i'm going to give credence to the Easdales? Fact is McConville is a scumbag as far as i'm concerned,whether you agree is neither here nor there.

[bennett]

Apparently they did get their money.

No they never, McConville never applied for their claims and the time limit ran out.

"A SCOTTISH lawyer is under investigation over claims that he failed to pass on payments from a £2 million compensation pot for former miners that was paid to his firm.

Glasgow-based personal injuries specialist Paul McConville is at the centre of a probe by the Law Society of Scotland over complaints concerning the way he handled more than 2.2m of cash paid out by the government-backed Miners Liability Unit, set up in 1999 to compensate thousands of ex-miners for ill health caused by their job.

At least a dozen former clients have come forward with complaints that McConville failed to pay them or did not lodge their claim before the compensation fund deadline including the daughter-in-law of the late Henry Baxter, who says she is owed more than 9,000.

As well as the compensation payments made to the firm it also received over 2m in payment for handling the cases.

McConville was already suspended by the Law Society before the complaints came to light after being declared bankrupt over unpaid tax debts."

http://www.scotsman.com/news/163-2m-miners-fund-missing-cash-probe-1-1368578

Interesting that McConville also never paid his taxes, especially after his high and mighty comments about Rangers use of EBT's, his double standards stink to high heaven.

[youngsy]

What's he going to do?

Both him and McGillivan will do absolutely f**k ALL. Two of the most hypocritical fuckers you're ever likely to meet or read about.

[thelegendthatis]

Brilliant how the Sevconians are in hiding when there is significant bad news and then come out in force when they get a sniff of a smear campaign.

My attitude to McConville is based on what he says. Does it make sense? Is it thought through? is it based on facts and reasoned conclusions?

But much easier to avoid engaging the brain and just disregard someone because of some label you can apply to them. Follow that route and you will refuse to deal with anyone who went to a school that had the name of a saint. Now think on it. How ludicrous would that be?

However all this sanctimonious guff about the poor miners doesn't distract from the newspaper headlines and other stories doing the rounds about what is happening within the boardroom at Rangers.

[thelegendthatis]

Walter Smith set to quit Ibrox 'shambles' WALTER SMITH is on the brink of quitting Rangers.

By: Graham Clark

Published: Wed, May 8, 2013

0Comments

Walter Smith could be set to walk away from Rangers

The club’s non-executive director – along with manager Ally McCoist about the only man inside Ibrox that the supporters identify with – is so frustrated at the shambles inside the boardroom that he is considering his position.

If the former manager does decide to jump ship it will be a devastating blow to the club’s credibility in already difficult times.

The most recent drama to engulf Rangers was a report yesterday suggesting chairman Malcolm Murray is set to leave.

If Smith does decide to jump ship it will be a devastating blow to the club’s credibility in already difficult times.

The man taken to Ibrox by former chief executive Charles Green a year ago is reported to have lost a vote of no confidence at a board meeting.

My understanding is he is hanging on to power and is unlikely to be pushed out until the end of the month.

Fans won’t lose any sleep over Murray’s eventual departure but the news Smith is disillusioned will have panic bells ringing.

The former manager has attended two fraught board meetings at Ibrox this week, and along with one other director was horrified Green joined proceedings via a conference call despite no longer being actively involved.

Green is, of course, still a shareholder.

Further news that will anger fans is the ongoing independent inquiry into links between former owner Craig Whyte, Green and ex-commercial director Imran Ahmad – an investigation called for by Murray – is likely to continue for another couple of weeks at a cost of around £500,000 which the Ibrox club can ill afford.

Rangers last night refused to confirm or deny these revelations.

But, but, but....Is Walter going to do walking away?

If he does, will he take his boy with him?

Or will Ally have the b**ls and ability to fight?

Must be time for the bonfire of the vanities for Ibrox and Murray Park. Assuming the insurance premiums have been paid.

[youngsy]

Brilliant how the Sevconians are in hiding when there is significant bad news and then come out in force when they get a sniff of a smear campaign.

My attitude to McConville is based on what he says. Does it make sense? Is it thought through? is it based on facts and reasoned conclusions?

But much easier to avoid engaging the brain and just disregard someone because of some label you can apply to them. Follow that route and you will refuse to deal with anyone who went to a school that had the name of a saint. Now think on it. How ludicrous would that be?

However all this sanctimonious guff about the poor miners doesn't distract from the newspaper headlines and other stories doing the rounds about what is happening within the boardroom at Rangers.

You're first point;what's the significant bad news? All i'm reading about is all supposition about anything that may or may not be happening within the boardroom, when there is anything of substance then that's when i'll personally comment.

As for McConville, each to their own about how they regard him and indeed react to his blogs, personally i find it very hypocritical that a person that held a position of trust but failed to carry out the responsibilities of that position of trust will comment on other wrongdoings as if he is a paragon of virtue. As to what school someone went to, that has never been an issue with me, what is an issue though is the hypocrisy from some whatever school that person attended.

[bennett]

You're first point;what's the significant bad news? All i'm reading about is all supposition about anything that may or may not be happening within the boardroom, when there is anything of substance then that's when i'll personally comment.

As for McConville, each to their own about how they regard him and indeed react to his blogs, personally i find it very hypocritical that a person that held a position of trust but failed to carry out the responsibilities of that position of trust will comment on other wrongdoings as if he is a paragon of virtue. As to what school someone went to, that has never been an issue with me, what is an issue though is the hypocrisy from some whatever school that person attended.

That's his usual default position when he's struggling, the religious card gets played.

[Bendarroch]

My attitude to McConville is based on what he says. Does it make sense? Is it thought through? is it based on facts and reasoned conclusions?

Is it likely that was also part of the Law Societies attitude when they ruled on McConville?

Now the disgraced bungler has a titanic sized whole in his credibility. And isn't allowed to operate unless the law society approves it and he is supervised.

Like my grandbairn on his wee bicycle.

[aofjays]

You're first point;what's the significant bad news? All i'm reading about is all supposition about anything that may or may not be happening within the boardroom, when there is anything of substance then that's when i'll personally comment.

As for McConville, each to their own about how they regard him and indeed react to his blogs, personally i find it very hypocritical that a person that held a position of trust but failed to carry out the responsibilities of that position of trust will comment on other wrongdoings as if he is a paragon of virtue. As to what school someone went to, that has never been an issue with me, what is an issue though is the hypocrisy from some whatever school that person attended.

Takes scum to know scum. Seriously though, discounting facts (which is what this particular blog was) because you dislike the person informing you is not the act of a smart person.

[captain kirk]

When all the orcs hav finished slagging off PMc , anyone going to tell us where he is wrong in his last post? The part about rangers official website stating the club and company are one in the same?