sjc Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Now, even you don't believe that rubbish.Nothing about the fact that Newco Rangers should not have been allowed to join the top flight or the second one, owed anything at all to the work of bloggers. It's simply fair that they shouldn't have been admitted at such elevated levels.Rangers were liquidated. That's the telling fact that meant they shouldn't have been - and thankfully weren't - allowed to re-form and carry on in the same place as if nothing had happened. If it took pressure from fans of other clubs to ensure that justice was done, then that's quite uplifting. ^^^this. I have no interest in the whole "tainted/stripping of titles" argument but Rangers were liquidated and the SPL & the SFA desperately tried to parachute the Newco straight into the top & 2nd tier of Scottish football........they'd have only done this for one other Club, which would have been just as wrong. If my Club had been liquidated in the Summer (as it very possibly could have been).......I would have gratefully accepted following my new reformed Club in the EoS league had our application been accepted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The sanctions imposed on Rangers after the SFA discovered that Whyte wasn't a fit and proper were draconian and some of them weren't even in the rule book, despite the Rangers board previously warning the the SFA. Scottish football fans pressurised the authorities into hammering Rangers harder than any other club due to the 'fact' that "they had been cheating for years" and deserved all that was coming to them. Now we know that fraud has been committed on a massive scale yet Scottish football fans are unrepentant and willr efuse to acknowledge their part in this. #humility 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 No matter how many people read or believed what was on some guy's website, he was still just some guy with a website. Just a website that was given credence by Jum Spence, Cosgrove, Gordon, English, Spiers etc on national radio, tv shows and national newspapers. The public lapped up every word of it. Anyone one here who dared question the RTC blog was routinely shouted down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I don't see how can you forget "some guy with a website" especially when that guy had most of scottish football frothing at the mouth and taking his every blog as being gospel. Now it was pointed out to Scottish football fans to wait and until the various hearings and investigations were completed before they dished out their brand of justice but no they had to have their pound of flesh. Plenty of guff to choose from but this is my favourite. So Scottish football fans, plastics and diddies I believe is the term, were somehow able to organise themselves, apply pressure and dish out a punishment to rangers. And an unjust and terrible punishment to boot! Yet you and your support were unable to achieve the comparatively simple task of preventing your club from being sold for a pound then left to wither and die. Like a smelly old relative only capable of the occasional outburst of outmoded racist language and a regular bout of incontinence, abandoned by the people who were supposed to love them. f**k if we were that effective, perhaps you should have swallowed your pride and asked for our help with our seemingly irresistible super-fan-power. Maybe you really aren't the people after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The sanctions imposed on Rangers after the SFA discovered that Whyte wasn't a fit and proper were draconian and some of them weren't even in the rule book, despite the Rangers board previously warning the the SFA. Scottish football fans pressurised the authorities into hammering Rangers harder than any other club due to the 'fact' that "they had been cheating for years" and deserved all that was coming to them. Now we know that fraud has been committed on a massive scale yet Scottish football fans are unrepentant and willr efuse to acknowledge their part in this. #humility Fraud may well have been committed by Whyte at Rangers but as the legal owner of Rangers he did this (if proven) on the Club behalf........just like Romanov/Robinson did in running up huge debts at Hearts which eventually lead to our Administration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The sanctions imposed on Rangers after the SFA discovered that Whyte wasn't a fit and proper were draconian and some of them weren't even in the rule book... Okay, I remember you exiting the league because you were no longer a football club. No club, no league place. I remember the SFA then allowed the Newco into the league set-up in the bottom tier without any serious competition, whereas other clubs in the same situation had previously been denied admittance. In addition, I recall you got a signing ban that lasted a few months. IIRC the Newco circumvented this ban effortlessly by buying players before it came into effect and/or sleazing their way around the rules by designating full professional signings as "triallists". The first wasn't even a punishment - it was, if anything, the SFA ignoring its own previous practice to do the Newco a huge favour. The second is the only "punishment" that I can think of. It had squarely no effect on the Newco at all and wouldn't have had much more, even if they hadn't found ways to slime out of accepting it. And for the fourth time - what should Scottish football fans have done, apart from asking their clubs to adhere to the laws of the game? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Mind Celtic used to be the victims? That was in the heady days before Karma caught up with the Rangers. Sevco. The "My Name Is Earl" of Scottish fitba. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) I'm off to bed here, but if any of you lot are still up when Bennett continues to dodge the question about what Scottish football fans should've done, other than ask their clubs to follow the rules, feel free to keep asking him and noting how many times he's evaded it.Night all Edited November 19, 2014 by flyingrodent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 No that is not what I said at all, making things up and adding smilies may make you popular with the QC though, you have much in common. You seem upset..... Surely you're not suggesting that there needs to be context and not just facts.. Of course you're not, that would undermine your argument. Remember DeadRangers made a profit in 2010 and 2011, what could possibly go wrong. Yours aDONis P.S I like smilies! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The club you support were parachuted directly into the same league after the old one died in 1905 (if you believe all this shite about football clubs dying just because the company running them dies), but I agree, just because it happened before does not mean it should have happened again, Rangers starting in SFL3 was the correct decision. I've heard this mentioned before about Hearts & in all honesty I don't know enough about what happened back then but if that was the case they should have started at the bottom.......which is the point (which you agree with) I was making of Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Can admin move the Orcs posts to the Lets All Laugh At Rangers thread, I was ready to catch up on an Under The Dome after finishing season 4 of The Walking Dead, but that'll keep. This is fuckin hilarious. Sevco, the gift that keeps on giving. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Bennett's on fire tonight. No doubt someone will be along soon to claim he got lots of bites and he'll attempt some contorted basking in a dubious triumph. However the reality is that he means it. He doesn't like what happened to Rangers, so it therefore feels unfair to him. He can't rationally explain why it was unfair though, because it's just a feeling. How he feels has emotional purchase, but is essentially irrational. It's fun watching him struggle though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Now we know that fraud has been committed on a massive scale yet Scottish football fans are unrepentant and willr efuse to acknowledge their part in this. To paraphrase a good Bud friend of mine, someone get me some new breeks, I've only gone and pished ma sel wi laughter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Fraud may well have been committed by Whyte at Rangers but as the legal owner of Rangers he did this (if proven) on the Club behalf........just like Romanov/Robinson did in running up huge debts at Hearts which eventually lead to our Administration. The legak owner of Rangers by fraudulent means. Rangers and Hearts are not comparable. Edited November 19, 2014 by bennett -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Jackanory has spent all night editing my posts, must be some laugh being him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 No no, it was not the Scottish football fans fault that the fraudster CW was allowed to get into Rangers, this happened because of (1) Murray`s arrogance in running Rangers recklessly for years. (2) the bank forcing Murray to sell to the 1st chancer that came along. (3) some daft, not fit for purpose rule that allows not fit persons to get past the not fit person test. So much seethe regarding a company that ran your club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Sevco. The "My Name Is Earl" of Scottish fitba. the Earls of Scottish fitba you say.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Upset?..I was mocking you for making stuff up in a post the QC would be proud of. You still seem....... upset. But if it helps, "Oh you cut me, you cut me deep" Yours aDONis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Okay, I remember you exiting the league because you were no longer a football club. No club, no league place. I remember the SFA then allowed the Newco into the league set-up in the bottom tier without any serious competition, whereas other clubs in the same situation had previously been denied admittance. In addition, I recall you got a signing ban that lasted a few months. IIRC the Newco circumvented this ban effortlessly by buying players before it came into effect and/or sleazing their way around the rules by designating full professional signings as "triallists". The first wasn't even a punishment - it was, if anything, the SFA ignoring its own previous practice to do the Newco a huge favour. The second is the only "punishment" that I can think of. It had squarely no effect on the Newco at all and wouldn't have had much more, even if they hadn't found ways to slime out of accepting it. And for the fourth time - what should Scottish football fans have done, apart from asking their clubs to adhere to the laws of the game? I'll pick out on glaring error from this pile of manure. Rangers received am embargo for 1 year and were banned from registering player over 18 years old. If you can't even get basic facts like that correct it's pointless going any further into your posts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 the Earls of Scottish fitba you say.... Victims you say.......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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