thelegendthatis Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Follow Follow I have just been informed that the lawyer claiming to be acting on behalf of Mr & Mr Easdale, Mr Somers and RIFC has submitted to the crown an action against me and the emails i released last night The action is NOT against authenticity nor publication but he believes the emails have been obtained through illegal means. How could you obtain an email illegally if it were fake? The action in its self proves authenticity. I shared this email with the Rangers fans for one reason and one reason only, to show the members of our board are more interested in self preservation than the future of our club, I done so in the belief that the public had to see the email i was in possession of and without concern to any future action against me, I believe I have done the right thing. I will not be bullied in my attempts to clear our club of those controlling it for their own benefit and wish every man removed who does not put Rangers interests in front of their own I am unsure of the outcome of this action and what i will face tomorrow so i will therefore be taking a break from online activity until this outcome is known and will leave the page to the moderators to oversee with no further posts until things clear up Merry Christmas and happy New year to all in the Rangers Family Craig. I read the email as posted on the SoS Facebook page. Didn't ring true for a number of reasons. Then this from 'Craig'. Either poor Craig is being conned or he is creating himself as a legend prepared to go over the top to support the cause. Words like "I have been informed" (formally, informally, man in a pub?) "submitted to the crown" (does he mean procurator fiscal?) "proves authenticity" (no it doesn't) "obtained through illegal means" Is it a civil or a criminal action? Have the police been involved? What is the procurator fiscal saying? Who told him this 'submission to the crown' has happened? Even if it is a fake he could still be charged with libel I would guess. Fantasist I suspect.... If I were moderating the site this appeared on I would want to get to the bottom of this pretty damn quick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 There could be some in starting afresh, rather than desperately clinging onto 54 titles etc. at the price of being taken advantage of forever more. The idea of maintaining our history being down to holding on to geewgaws dating back to our first (shared) title in 1891 isn't the point. The 'real history' is about, for example, me coming back from Ibrox with my dad and having tea at my grandfather's and discussing the merits of Henderson vs Waddle vs Morton. This is nothing unique to Rangers of course. It happens in every footballing-supporting family in Scotland with two or more generations of fans. The younger ones laud players that the older ones say weren't fit to lace the boots of a player of their own generation etc. History like this matter much more than baubles and is (partly) what makes setting up 'RFC of Govan' so difficult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeHectorPar Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I read the email as posted on the SoS Facebook page. Didn't ring true for a number of reasons. Then this from 'Craig'. Either poor Craig is being conned or he is creating himself as a legend prepared to go over the top to support the cause. Words like "I have been informed" (formally, informally, man in a pub?) "submitted to the crown" (does he mean procurator fiscal?) "proves authenticity" (no it doesn't) "obtained through illegal means" Is it a civil or a criminal action? Have the police been involved? What is the procurator fiscal saying? Who told him this 'submission to the crown' has happened? Even if it is a fake he could still be charged with libel I would guess. Fantasist I suspect.... If I were moderating the site this appeared on I would want to get to the bottom of this pretty damn quick. Has to be "submitted to the crown". After al,l it is the Queen's club we are talking about here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I read the email as posted on the SoS Facebook page. Didn't ring true for a number of reasons. Then this from 'Craig'. Either poor Craig is being conned or he is creating himself as a legend prepared to go over the top to support the cause. Words like "I have been informed" (formally, informally, man in a pub?) "submitted to the crown" (does he mean procurator fiscal?) "proves authenticity" (no it doesn't) "obtained through illegal means" Is it a civil or a criminal action? Have the police been involved? What is the procurator fiscal saying? Who told him this 'submission to the crown' has happened? Even if it is a fake he could still be charged with libel I would guess. Fantasist I suspect.... If I were moderating the site this appeared on I would want to get to the bottom of this pretty damn quick. The telegraph is running with it now http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/11311642/Rangers-chairman-David-Somers-pleaded-for-Mike-Ashley-takeover-to-succeed-emails-reveal.html The email has also appeared on a Rangers fan site, which has been threatened with legal action by the club, but The Daily Telegraph has been provided with proof of its provenance. The precise detail of what triggered Somers’ outburst is not clear, but an Ibrox insider said: “There was a good deal of back and forth with detail on the run-up to Ashley’s boardroom coup and it is almost certainly that which got David Somers so agitated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) According to Somers the onerous Sports direct deals can be broken and aren't set in stone. Interesting. (via the emails (?) ) Edited December 23, 2014 by bennett 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The media ignored CF's stuff, a national newspaper is running with the SOS guys stuff. P.S CF got tracked down easily enough ..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The idea of maintaining our history being down to holding on to geewgaws dating back to our first (shared) title in 1891 isn't the point. The 'real history' is about, for example, me coming back from Ibrox with my dad and having tea at my grandfather's and discussing the merits of Henderson vs Waddle vs Morton. This is nothing unique to Rangers of course. It happens in every footballing-supporting family in Scotland with two or more generations of fans. The younger ones laud players that the older ones say weren't fit to lace the boots of a player of their own generation etc. History like this matter much more than baubles and is (partly) what makes setting up 'RFC of Govan' so difficult. The FC United comparison is interesting, here - they tend to sing things like "Two Uniteds but the soul is one", a lot of their fans do still attend at both grounds and they view themselves as very much a part of the "United family" (apologies for the cloying phrase). I suspect there's more than a few at FCUM that still like to talk about the good times they've had with friends and family in the past, while also taking pride in their new future away from what at least some of them view, rightly or wrongly, as the unpleasant growing commercialisation within football, particularly in England. So I think that sense of community *can* be maintained - the difficulty I guess comes in getting wide enough support through the fanbase for the phoenix club, and coming to agreement out the more difficult aspects of starting it up (where is the capital coming from, where would they play, what structure would the business side of things take etc.) I think, at this point, even the older generation would be fairly understanding of the reasoning behind setting up an RFC of Govan. I know I'm generalising, but the antics of Green, Murray, Whyte et al are pretty well documented by now, and what would piss the spivs off more than enough season ticket holders going "Ram it, we're taking our money and starting our own club, and you won't get a penny more out of us"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Rangers fans jizzing over Charlotte fake type emails now, you couldn't make it up................... Are we really? ..................................... Connected to the email posted last night by the SOS guy. Apparently Somers and the Easdales are taking legal action against him. Follow FollowI have just been informed that the lawyer claiming to be acting on behalf of Mr & Mr Easdale, Mr Somers and RIFC has submitted to the crown an action against me and the emails i released last nightThe action is NOT against authenticity nor publication but he believes the emails have been obtained through illegal means. How could you obtain an email illegally if it were fake? The action in its self proves authenticity.I shared this email with the Rangers fans for one reason and one reason only, to show the members of our board are more interested in self preservation than the future of our club, I done so in the belief that the public had to see the email i was in possession of and without concern to any future action against me, I believe I have done the right thing.I will not be bullied in my attempts to clear our club of those controlling it for their own benefit and wish every man removed who does not put Rangers interests in front of their ownI am unsure of the outcome of this action and what i will face tomorrow so i will therefore be taking a break from online activity until this outcome is known and will leave the page to the moderators to oversee with no further posts until things clear upMerry Christmas and happy New year to all in the Rangers FamilyCraig. The telegraph is running with it nowhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/11311642/Rangers-chairman-David-Somers-pleaded-for-Mike-Ashley-takeover-to-succeed-emails-reveal.htmlThe email has also appeared on a Rangers fan site, which has been threatened with legal action by the club, but The Daily Telegraph has been provided with proof of its provenance. The precise detail of what triggered Somers’ outburst is not clear, but an Ibrox insider said: “There was a good deal of back and forth with detail on the run-up to Ashley’s boardroom coup and it is almost certainly that which got David Somers so agitated According to Somers the onerous Sports direct deals can be broken and aren't set in stone. Interesting. (via the emails (?) ) YES. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 .................. ..................................... YES. I haven't gave my opinion on them yet, so no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Capsule Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The idea of maintaining our history being down to holding on to geewgaws dating back to our first (shared) title in 1891 isn't the point. The 'real history' is about, for example, me coming back from Ibrox with my dad and having tea at my grandfather's and discussing the merits of Henderson vs Waddle vs Morton. This is nothing unique to Rangers of course. It happens in every footballing-supporting family in Scotland with two or more generations of fans. The younger ones laud players that the older ones say weren't fit to lace the boots of a player of their own generation etc. History like this matter much more than baubles and is (partly) what makes setting up 'RFC of Govan' so difficult. Great post, especially the second paragraph. It's basically impossible to change your team. It's all the memories of your youth and being with your parents that keep you going back, like a sense of nostalgia. If St Johnstone were to go tits up, I couldn't move onto a new club, because I'd always remember things like my Dad taking me to it first as a family day out, watching us put three past Monaco, and thinking Nick Dasovic was the greatest player ever. You might have some good times supporting a new team, and get rid of the shysters, but you'd always hark back. Kinda like a lost love I suppose. Something on a true football fan would understand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_p Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Has anyone heard anything about the meeting with the SFA and Lambias today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Has anyone heard anything about the meeting with the SFA and Lambias today? He'll be told to sling his hook, theres no way Peter Lawwell will agree to anything. "DEREK LLAMBIAS will seek approval for Mike Ashley’s vision for the future of Rangers today from an SFA group that includes Peter Lawwell. The Celtic chief executive is a member of the SFA board that will meet with the new Rangers frontman at Hampden for talks on the way forward for the cash-strapped club. Rangers have been asked to detail the business plan and strategy behind any future investment from the Newcastle United owner." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The Sons of Strewth guy needs some help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeHectorPar Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 He'll be told to sling his hook, theres no way Peter Lawwell will agree to anything. "DEREK LLAMBIAS will seek approval for Mike Ashley’s vision for the future of Rangers today from an SFA group that includes Peter Lawwell. The Celtic chief executive is a member of the SFA board that will meet with the new Rangers frontman at Hampden for talks on the way forward for the cash-strapped club. Rangers have been asked to detail the business plan and strategy behind any future investment from the Newcastle United owner." Ashley will stick up two fingers and say "I'll see you in court". He'll make the SFA look like a bunch of gibbering idiots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Great post, especially the second paragraph. It's basically impossible to change your team. It's all the memories of your youth and being with your parents that keep you going back, like a sense of nostalgia. If St Johnstone were to go tits up, I couldn't move onto a new club, because I'd always remember things like my Dad taking me to it first as a family day out, watching us put three past Monaco, and thinking Nick Dasovic was the greatest player ever. You might have some good times supporting a new team, and get rid of the shysters, but you'd always hark back. Kinda like a lost love I suppose. Something on a true football fan would understand. I can agree with that sentiment up to a point as I have very similar memories. But then as a football fan you need to look to the future, what will your children pass on to their grand kids in 50 years time. What will The young bears just now be telling their grand kids... Ah I remember the good days when we won back to back promotions, what a journey... Then it all went wrong and no one wanted to start a fresh. We were all to selfish back in 2014. You'll never understand what 54 titles meant to us back then. And that's why you go to the rugby. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeHectorPar Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The Sons of Strewth guy needs some help. He needs a brain cell transplant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Ashley will stick up two fingers and say "I'll see you in court". He'll make the SFA look like a bunch of gibbering idiots. On what grounds? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 On what grounds? Ibrox and Murray Park, probably. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 He'll be told to sling his hook, theres no way Peter Lawwell will agree to anything. "DEREK LLAMBIAS will seek approval for Mike Ashley’s vision for the future of Rangers today from an SFA group that includes Peter Lawwell. The Celtic chief executive is a member of the SFA board that will meet with the new Rangers frontman at Hampden for talks on the way forward for the cash-strapped club. Rangers have been asked to detail the business plan and strategy behind any future investment from the Newcastle United owner." Did you forget that EBT lover and former 20 year Rangers board member Campbell Ogilvie is there too.? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Did you forget that EBT lover and former 20 year Rangers board member Campbell Ogilvie is there too.? I am pretty sure that neither Ben nor I kent that Brother Campbell was on the board. However, it's reassuring to know you Plastics have the finger on the pulse as always. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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