hellbhoy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Aye well as i've no idea who won it, i'm guessing it was moi. But yet you took the time to find out who was the worst Killie poster ? Obsessed much Benny ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Ashley is the only one so far to have done anything which might actually help to save Rangers, i.e. cutting costs. He's also got rid of Sally, which the fans apparently wanted. He is seen as a villain. Sandy Easdale owns a bus company. He has 4.2 million shares. He is seen as a spiv and a villain, I'm not sure why. Douglas Park, also owns a bus company. He has bought about the same number of shares as his part of a consortium. He is seen as a saviour. Can anyone explain? The Rangers fans just being stupid lashing out at anything that stops the juggernaut smashing everyone in their way to hearing Champions League music at Ibrokes once again. Or because people are taking more money out than they are prepared to put in and the club should be funded no matter the cost to stop Celtic getting 10 IAR and surpassing 54 top tier titles. Or they aren't Rangers men. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The Rangers fans just being stupid lashing out at anything that stops the juggernaut smashing everyone in their way to hearing Champions League music at Ibrokes once again. Or because people are taking more money out than they are prepared to put in and the club should be funded no matter the cost to stop Celtic getting 10 IAR and surpassing 54 top tier titles. Or they aren't Rangers men. The longer Celtic are apart from Rangers and if they continue to fail to make the Champions League stages the more likely a challenge from Aberdeen, Dundee Utd or dare I even suggest Hearts to their quest for 10iar. Without Rangers or UCL money Celtic are regressing hugely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 No, we are just cutting our cloth accordingly. this is a phrase that really boils my pish. the proper idiom is, "Cut your coat according to your cloth.". Subtle but important difference. So the 3 Bears? Saviours? Naw. Or maybe, 'Not yet'. The crucial paragraph is in the article posted by Wee Hec: The consortium’s purchase of 13.29 million shares from Laxey Partners ends a two-year long involvement at Ibrox by the hedge fund, which is registered in the Isle of Man. The Three Bears – wealthy supporters Douglas Park, George Letham and George Taylor – have also tabled an offer of £6.5 million to underwrite a share issue designed to raise £8 million and head off an imminent funding crisis. So was today's share purchase paid for out of the £6.5M 'war chest' or is it in addition to what has been offered? The answer is V Important. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The longer Celtic are apart from Rangers and if they continue to fail to make the Champions League stages the more likely a challenge from Aberdeen, Dundee Utd or dare I even suggest Hearts to their quest for 10iar. Without Rangers or UCL money Celtic are regressing hugely. Indeed. And the beauty of it is, their fans, in the main, believe that, because their former Business Partners are no more/crippled*, all those lovely records are there for the taking. As we've seen, though, failure to do all that well in Europe leads to a stripping back of the playing budget, as does a fall in ST sales**. *Delete according to level of delusion. ** I wonder what could have caused that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 But yet you took the time to find out who was the worst Killie poster ? Obsessed much Benny ? Yeah clicking on link to the thread in question was a gargantuan effort on my part. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The longer Celtic are apart from Rangers and if they continue to fail to make the Champions League stages the more likely a challenge from Aberdeen, Dundee Utd or dare I even suggest Hearts to their quest for 10iar. Without Rangers or UCL money Celtic are regressing hugely. I know the idea that without a Rangers FC in the top flight will mean less money for Celtic and the decline will continue with each passing year there isn't a Rangers FC there. All Celtic need is a title challenger who each season push Celtic further and further to the title so it becomes a battle each season. Aberdeen are looking more promising since Rangers went bust, Dundee Utd are too inconsistent but are a threat. Hearts & Hibs dropping down a division certainly hurt Celtic's finances, this is what no one factored into the equation and just focused on Rangers going tits up. I know a lot of Celtic fans who just said fcuk this after HIbs & Hearts got relegated as they seen them as real threats and thought the league was just too pish to pay money to go to without the Capital clubs in the division. Should Hearts & Hibs go up this season there will be more ST's shifted at Parkhead, both bigger clubs and decent fanbase that follow them and usually play much better football than the rest and worth buying an ST for. Seeing 3 of the biggest clubs disappearing from the top flight within a couple of years to most fans of Celtic viewed the league as weaker and the title was there for the taking, so what was the point a few have said to me if the league was already won. Should Utd & Aberdeen keep up the title fight there will be an increase in the actual gate at Parkhead if it is still on after the split. I await for your club next season to help shift our ST's SJC , let's face it Celtic will see Hearts as the biggest rivals next season if they keep getting better and next season may bring in much better quality players with the extra revenue in the top flight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 this is a phrase that really boils my pish. the proper idiom is, "Cut your coat according to your cloth.". Subtle but important difference. So the 3 Bears? Saviours? Naw. Or maybe, 'Not yet'. The crucial paragraph is in the article posted by Wee Hec: The consortium’s purchase of 13.29 million shares from Laxey Partners ends a two-year long involvement at Ibrox by the hedge fund, which is registered in the Isle of Man. The Three Bears – wealthy supporters Douglas Park, George Letham and George Taylor – have also tabled an offer of £6.5 million to underwrite a share issue designed to raise £8 million and head off an imminent funding crisis. So was today's share purchase paid for out of the £6.5M 'war chest' or is it in addition to what has been offered? The answer is V Important. It really, really isn't. Teams who compete (note the word) in European football spend these sums and more for players who aren't necessarily even used in the CL/EL, but fill in for the first team on domestic duties. Your lot need it to keep the lights on - so that you can get a good view of your bright young prospects heading South. In terms of the rangers ever being competitive, ten times that sum would have been useful - but even then they pissed it away winning the seaside leagues. Well Done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Yeah clicking on link to the thread in question was a gargantuan effort on my part. We all know you have trouble with links. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottxs Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Yeah clicking on link to the thread in question was a gargantuan effort on my part.it should be as you normally fudge those simple tasks up. Good to see your learning. Oh and have a happy new year when it comes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 this is a phrase that really boils my pish. the proper idiom is, "Cut your coat according to your cloth.". Subtle but important difference. So the 3 Bears? Saviours? Naw. Or maybe, 'Not yet'. The crucial paragraph is in the article posted by Wee Hec: The consortium’s purchase of 13.29 million shares from Laxey Partners ends a two-year long involvement at Ibrox by the hedge fund, which is registered in the Isle of Man. The Three Bears – wealthy supporters Douglas Park, George Letham and George Taylor – have also tabled an offer of £6.5 million to underwrite a share issue designed to raise £8 million and head off an imminent funding crisis. So was today's share purchase paid for out of the £6.5M 'war chest' or is it in addition to what has been offered? The answer is V Important. Forsyth is assuming that the Three Bears still have £6.5M to invest, i.e. that today's shares didn't reduce that sum. Does he know for sure? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I know the idea that without a Rangers FC in the top flight will mean less money for Celtic and the decline will continue with each passing year there isn't a Rangers FC there. All Celtic need is a title challenger who each season push Celtic further and further to the title so it becomes a battle each season. Aberdeen are looking more promising since Rangers went bust, Dundee Utd are too inconsistent but are a threat. Hearts & Hibs dropping down a division certainly hurt Celtic's finances, this is what no one factored into the equation and just focused on Rangers going tits up. I know a lot of Celtic fans who just said fcuk this after HIbs & Hearts got relegated as they seen them as real threats and thought the league was just too pish to pay money to go to without the Capital clubs in the division. Should Hearts & Hibs go up this season there will be more ST's shifted at Parkhead, both bigger clubs and decent fanbase that follow them and usually play much better football than the rest and worth buying an ST for. Seeing 3 of the biggest clubs disappearing from the top flight within a couple of years to most fans of Celtic viewed the league as weaker and the title was there for the taking, so what was the point a few have said to me if the league was already won. Should Utd & Aberdeen keep up the title fight there will be an increase in the actual gate at Parkhead if it is still on after the split. I await for your club next season to help shift our ST's SJC , let's face it Celtic will see Hearts as the biggest rivals next season if they keep getting better and next season may bring in much better quality players with the extra revenue in the top flight. I honestly don't think a challenging Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Hearts or Hibs carry the same interest for Celtic fans than Rangers.......we saw this in the early 80's when Rangers were struggling under Greig & Wallace where Celtic (and Rangers fans for that matter) picked and chose their games. In fairness, from what I've been told ST's are only slightly down at Parkhead at present but I could see this dropping without Rangers or the UCL long term. It's the same reason why many of us Jambos supported "hands off Hibs" & wouldn't mind Hibs getting promoted just behind us this season! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep77 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Ashley is the only one so far to have done anything which might actually help to save Rangers, i.e. cutting costs. He's also got rid of Sally, which the fans apparently wanted. He is seen as a villain. Sandy Easdale owns a bus company. He has 4.2 million shares. He is seen as a spiv and a villain, I'm not sure why. Douglas Park, also owns a bus company. He has bought about the same number of shares as his part of a consortium. He is seen as a saviour. Can anyone explain? David murray owns a bus company as well seems a common theme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 We all know you have trouble with links. Prefer slice myself but I'm quite partial to the odd link.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Malloy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The longer Celtic are apart from Rangers and if they continue to fail to make the Champions League stages the more likely a challenge from Aberdeen, Dundee Utd or dare I even suggest Hearts to their quest for 10iar. Without Rangers or UCL money Celtic are regressing hugely. Really? We welcome the chase! Remember what happened to the last club who tried to best the Celtic!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Really? We welcome the chase! Remember what happened to the last club who tried to best the Celtic!!! Do you know what the word "regressing" means? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Ashley is the only one so far to have done anything which might actually help to save Rangers, i.e. cutting costs. He's also got rid of Sally, which the fans apparently wanted. He is seen as a villain. Sandy Easdale owns a bus company. He has 4.2 million shares. He is seen as a spiv and a villain, I'm not sure why. Douglas Park, also owns a bus company. He has bought about the same number of shares as his part of a consortium. He is seen as a saviour. Can anyone explain? You have to be fishing. I don't really know much about park other than busses and that when green came calling, he told him to do one. Phil and grant on the other hand I reckon I know enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Malloy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Do you know what the word "regressing" means? Yes! of course I do! your supporters have regressed to near neanderthal stages. Your team? ....well that hasn't regressed!....It's always been shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Malloy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Yeah, they finished 2nd. Nothing new there then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Yes! of course I do! your supporters have regressed to near neanderthal stages. Your team? ....well that hasn't regressed!....It's always been shite. Dreadful patter from a dreadful Poster........but that aside, if you fail to see the link between Celtic regressing and the more the likelihood of a title challenge by the very Clubs (now revitalised)that the Old Firm duopoly stifled then there really is no hope for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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