nsr Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 It's amazing how far being a glib and shameless liar can take you in life and King is living proof of that But Is anybody still dumb enough to swallow his Sevco bluff, bluster and BS? Green and Whyte were straight dealers compared to this felon. Nobody is going to put their money near this born liar, no lender or investor, so better get that imaginary second £20m ready. Mon Hibs. The Sevconians' fanatical obsession with getting one up on "thame" means that anyone who promises them a short-term future of competing against Celtic would be believed implicitly if he told them the Pope was a Hindu and grass is blue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 The Equals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 It is entirely reasonable to poll posters on the same board, but it's also reasonably pointless to suggest that these posters are representative of the support as a whole. As imprecise as it is, using anecdotal experiences of Rangers fans collected over the years is fairly strong evidence to present in favour of Monkey's argument. I am not sure what sort of evidence-base one uses. Given that we all post on P&B it seems reasonable to use feedback from our fellow posters. The only reason for not doing so is that you don't like the possible results. Unless, of course, you think we are a self-selecting group of Balanced Budget Bears which is clearly absurd. As an analogy, for example; several Rangers fans post on here, yet few if any will admit to having sung sectarian songs in the past week. However, recent footage at Easter Road, Palmerston Park and Ibrox demonstrates large chunks of your support doing so. Therefore, it would be a long bow to draw to say that, on the evidence of posters on this board, Rangers fans don't sing sectarian songs, wouldn't it? I'll ask you the same question that I asked another poster. Talk me through the sectarian songs. Try and do so without resorting to cant or cliche. BTW 'distasteful' doesn't count. I find some of our songbook distasteful (especially the UVF shite) but that's not the same as sectarian. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 This isn't a new phenomenon. My grandfather was an Airdrie fan first but would often get a tram to Ibrox to watch The Famous. The rest of your post is pish. You cut that shit out, you livestock raping b*****d ye. You are doing A Monkey and projecting what you think is true. Ask any of the Bears on here if they want a balanced budget or boom and bust. Do you want that if it meant getting pumped? As the first half against queens showed, your support cannot live for 45 minutes without winning. No patience, booooooooooooo The business model of look at the shiny-shiny, win at all costs, no surrender, was the death of your old club. Any evidence that this isn't happening now, no. So if by this time next year Dave King has proved himself trustworthy will this thread finally be closed? Apart from the 2 out right lies about a nomad and his investment being non-conditional, there's no time machine to wipe out his last involvement and his convictions. 10 years of Mary Poppins behaviour and we're maybe approaching trustworthy. Next year pffft, cretin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Do you want that if it meant getting pumped? As the first half against queens showed, your support cannot live for 45 minutes without winning. No patience, booooooooooooo The business model of look at the shiny-shiny, win at all costs, no surrender, was the death of your old club. Any evidence that this isn't happening now, no. ^ This. Give them the choice between being financially sound and responsible or hammering teams 4-0 every week, and they'll choose the latter every time, despite what they might say to the contrary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) I missed this little gobbet of ignorance. I am, of course, a Rangers' supporting, Tory-voting Unionist who thinks that The Reformation was an altogether good thing. I am also perfectly happy that none of those views need inform any of the other and live with them as comfortably independent opinions. This is clearly a level of nuance that you have no scope to appreciate hence your crass caricature. It really is an amazing set of independent and wholly unrelated coincidences when you factor in that you're also a bit of a dick. Edited May 23, 2015 by williemillersmoustache 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramour Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I am not sure what sort of evidence-base one uses. Given that we all post on P&B it seems reasonable to use feedback from our fellow posters. The only reason for not doing so is that you don't like the possible results. Unless, of course, you think we are a self-selecting group of Balanced Budget Bears which is clearly absurd. I'll ask you the same question that I asked another poster. Talk me through the sectarian songs. Try and do so without resorting to cant or cliche. BTW 'distasteful' doesn't count. I find some of our songbook distasteful (especially the UVF shite) but that's not the same as sectarian. To do so would be equally pointless though, especially in the framework you've designed. By deeming certain songs 'distasteful', you have introduced an objective test with which I cannot agree. I find any song or social activity connected with the celebration of terrorism, and indeed the slaughter of a religious group, steeped in such symbolism more than distasteful; I consider it disgusting, facile, and furthermore those people who defend such behaviour in any respect as doing as much to further such culture as if they were joining in themselves. For your reference though, although both are adjectival, I don't consider sectarian and distasteful to be synonymous in the least. One is strictly subjective, the other objective in my eyes. So to save wasting more time on the subject, I respectfully decline your invitation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPapacNoParty Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 It's an really is an amazing set of independent and wholly unrelated coincidences when you factor in that you're also a bit of a dick. Are you the real mustache of Willie Miller? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 How did the journalist write that and keep a straight face? 'Journalist' is stetching it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Strong balance sheet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Charles Green 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObserverFromAfar Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 We'll have to agree to disagree on this but my gut tells me more Rangers fans would prefer the 'balanced budget' approach to the'management by cheque book' boom and bust of the past. Fair enough. How big an increase in ticket and season ticket prices is your gut telling you Rangers fans would be prepared to pay to balance the budget? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doink Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Chic Young 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/opinion/sport/record-fc-rangers-dave-kings-5742507 Boo fucking hoo! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I am, of course, a Rangers' supporting, Tory-voting Unionist who thinks that The Reformation was an altogether good thing. I am also perfectly happy that none of those views need inform any of the other and live with them as comfortably independent opinions. And yet you've connected them, perfectly explicitly, in the past. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muirkirk nil Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 From the Daily Mail. Did Scottish FA break own rules during process of granting new Rangers chairman Dave King fit-and-proper status?Rangers chairman Dave King was awarded fit-and-proper status this weekEight members of the SFA board made the final decision on TuesdaySportsmail has learned of surprise and concern among members of the 11-man Professional Game Board over their exclusion from decisionBy STEPHEN MCGOWAN FOR THE SCOTTISH DAILY MAILPUBLISHED: 00:53, 23 May 2015 | UPDATED: 01:05, 23 May 2015The Scottish FA were last night facing fresh questions over the process which ended in Dave King being granted fit-and-proper status.The new Rangers chairman was given the green light on Tuesday by the eight-man full SFA board following a protracted debate over his South African tax convictions and his presence on the Ibrox board when the club suffered an insolvency event in 2012.Sportsmail has learned, however, of surprise and concern among some members of the SFA’s 11-man Professional Game Board over their exclusion from the final discussion and decision on the matter.The PGB last met three weeks ago, on April 30, when they granted interim Rangers chairman Paul Murray the all-clear on his own fit-and-proper status. In the aftermath of the Murray vote, PGB members expected to be summoned for a final King ruling.This week’s SFA statement confirmed, however, that the decision over the South African businessman was actually taken only by the eight-man SFA board despite SFA Board Protocols section 3.15 (iv) stating that responsibility for ‘approving persons to hold position within Association Football’ lies with the PGB.In exceptional circumstances article 64.1 of the SFA rulebook says the full Board: ‘shall at any time be entitled to exercise its powers in relation to areas of responsibility... like matters considered and determined by the Professional Game Board.’However Sportsmail understands that, after ruling on Murray, members of the PGB now want clarification on why they were excluded from voting on King.The current PGB consists of Rod Petrie (Hibs), Neil Doncaster (SPFL), Ralph Topping (SPFL), Peter Lawwell (Celtic), Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen), Mike Mulraney (Alloa), Sandy Stables (Highland League), Andrew Waddell (Lowland League), Stewart Regan (SFA chief executive), Campbell Ogilvie (SFA President) and Alan McRae (first vice-president of the SFA).The main SFA board consists of Regan, Ogilvie, McRae, Petrie, Barrie Jackson, the independent non-executive director, Peter Lawwell, Ralph Topping and Tom Johnston of the Junior FA.The SFA are facing fresh questions over the process that led to fit-and-proper status being awardedThe statement confirming King had been given the green light referred only to the ‘Board of the Scottish FA’ with the key passage reading: ‘Having considered all submissions received from Mr King and the club in respect of this matter the Scottish FA Board granted an approval, conditional upon further submissions from Mr King in respect of documented agreements with the appropriate authorities in South Africa.’In contrast Murray was passed by the PGB, a statement last month confirming: ‘The Scottish FA can confirm at a meeting of the Professional Game Board (PGB) on Thursday, 30th April, consideration was given to the fit and proper status of Mr Paul Murray as a director of Rangers Football Club.‘Having considered the documentation provided and taking into account Mr Murray’ s detailed personal submission before it, the PGB is satisfied that Mr Murray is fit and proper in terms of Article 10.2.’There is no suggestion of wrongdoing on the part of Rangers or Dave King. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 NO SUGGESTION! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/opinion/sport/record-fc-rangers-dave-kings-5742507 Boo fucking hoo! What about romanov... What about di Stefano ( who held shares in the dead club) Wait, aren't these the precedent for the fit and proper?? Point utterly missed by the blogger. Its all hatred with the idiotic contingent. Sometimes you wonder if they really know what's going on outside their own wee world 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 He got the utter disdain bit right in fairness 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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