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Great idea for a site, and very well executed.

I'm not sure if the picture and quote from Jock Stein is a great idea though - it could give the impression that the site has leanings towards Celtic. I know that sounds pathetic, but it's the world we live in.

Nah perfectly suitable, Jock knew the ramifications of clubs abandoning the supporters.

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Great idea for a site, and very well executed.

I'm not sure if the picture and quote from Jock Stein is a great idea though - it could give the impression that the site has leanings towards Celtic. I know that sounds pathetic, but it's the world we live in.

Thanks for comments. Yes I did think about whether Jock Stein was suitable, but hell sometimes you just want to annoy Campbell Ogilvie so he might put his head above the parapet. rolleyes.gif

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I've been a Motherwell supporter for nearly 50 years and I will always be a Motherwell supporter, but if Sevco start next season in the 1st Division then I've already watched my last league match at Fir Park. It's one thing watching a league with only two possible winners season after season, but to be told by the powers that be that this is the only allowable outcome is a step too far.

It takes away your hopes and dreams and that's what football is all about. What is the point of supporting a team when you cant dream of them winning the league? I've had title dreams for Motherwell since I was a wee boy, and in the mid '90's we came damn close. All our dreams are fucked, the league is an OF duopoly and will stay that way.

I live in Manchester and I've often been asked whether I'm Celtic or Rangers, and when I tell them Motherwell, the next question is always "Where are you in the league?" It's never "How many cups have you won?" or "When did you last win anything?" it is always "Where are you in the league?"

The league is what professional football is all about and between them the SFA, the SPL, and the SFL have stitched the league up for the OF.

As far as I am concerned there is no league, certainly not for Motherwell, and definitely not for me. It looks like my last match at Fir Park will be our final European tie this season.

Scottish Football is rotten to the core and that's the way the SFA and the SPL want to keep it, and they can keep it, I certainly dont want any part of it.

If you really have dreamed of winning the league than that is just delusional. St. Mirren will likely never win the league, I honestly don't give a shit.

And unlike many here I won't abandon my team because a decision is made out of their hands. Fans really are utterly ridiculous at times.

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Get following @millenniumsoccer on Twitter.

This is the "brains" behind bombers bid.

Walter mitty character.

His business partner is pornstar Michelle Thorne.

Total chancer

oh that Michelle Thorne - does she ever appear at Ballantyne's lap dancing club in Glasgow ?

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I've been a Motherwell supporter for nearly 50 years and I will always be a Motherwell supporter, but if Sevco start next season in the 1st Division then I've already watched my last league match at Fir Park. It's one thing watching a league with only two possible winners season after season, but to be told by the powers that be that this is the only allowable outcome is a step too far.

It takes away your hopes and dreams and that's what football is all about. What is the point of supporting a team when you cant dream of them winning the league? I've had title dreams for Motherwell since I was a wee boy, and in the mid '90's we came damn close. All our dreams are fucked, the league is an OF duopoly and will stay that way.

I live in Manchester and I've often been asked whether I'm Celtic or Rangers, and when I tell them Motherwell, the next question is always "Where are you in the league?" It's never "How many cups have you won?" or "When did you last win anything?" it is always "Where are you in the league?"

The league is what professional football is all about and between them the SFA, the SPL, and the SFL have stitched the league up for the OF.

As far as I am concerned there is no league, certainly not for Motherwell, and definitely not for me. It looks like my last match at Fir Park will be our final European tie this season.

Scottish Football is rotten to the core and that's the way the SFA and the SPL want to keep it, and they can keep it, I certainly dont want any part of it.

Excellent post, TheLip69. I think I am a similar generation, I certainly share your views here.

Referring to the period you mention, let's say when we had the Cobra: I was mightily pished off that Sellic managed to play a whole season at Hampden, whereas every other team before and after had to meet the Taylor Report requirements and undertake general ground maintenance work in pre-season. Of course, this was essentially, other than a few academics, in pre-internet days. At risking neg rep here from the Eastenders here; fair enough, if that proposal had been made today, would fans of other clubs just bent over and taken a big one up the bomb bay shrugged their shoulders and got on with things?

I've seen OF bias all my generation; the spoof Rancid back page of "Terry Butcher Has A Cold"/"Dundee United Lose To Gothenberg- See Page 67, column 5" wasn't far from the truth at all. We are currently seeing a big backlash against Chico and Traynor; in truth this has always been the case.

I'm completely scunnered with Scottish football such that I asked to get my account (Shallow Dave) terminated on Steelmen Online. I'm here because there's a bit more of a wider and intellectual debate, however should Zombie Buttfuckers From G51 end up in the SFL1, I guarantee no Scottish Football entity or association will ever receive any of my hard-earned again.

Oh, people are free to discuss the semantics between boycotts and walk-outs. Whatever floats your boat......

PA

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Think this the same guy that got knocked back from buying us a month or so ago. Yes, little , old Qos . Told to hoppit (eventually ).

I actually wondered if Green had anything to do with this mob. Obviously not.

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Probably a bit late in the day for this but Murdo Macleod reckons if there is no Rangers next season in the SPL then the league will be boring because we already know who will win it.

He must've been on the moon during the 90's then as Rangers romped to 9 in a row. In thinking about it i reckon in my 25 seasons following football i only failed maybe twice to predict a league winner.

Would he prefer Rangers in the SPL with no sanctions next season and we will give them a pile of cash to compete?

Is any ex old firm pro able to write something that isn't complete nonsense?

He's ex old firm, part of the establishment and mentally tainted by the experience. As a pundit he's simply there to maintain balance in the force, yin and yang, good and evil, Hately and Macleod...but mainly to sell newspapers to OF sheep.

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I got a bank charge the other day, was my fault you know. See I completely messed up my budget but now I guess I'll have to pay the fine and just get on with it. Shame I'm not a football club then I could just blame Rangers...

I know what you're thinking, here's another bear with a chip on his shoulder. Well it's not true. Rangers messed up monumentally, they stiffed the tax man (strange how many denizens of parkhead suddenly care about the queens bank balance) they stiffed other football clubs they stiffed small businesses and they eventually went down in a blaze of arrogance one news of the world phone hacker was said to have described as "a bit dis-tasteful".

Since February everybody's had their pound of flesh and oh boy what a party it's been. In the beginning it was fair and the criticism which flowed was justified but fuelled by lashings of pent up anger / jealously / self-righteousness all and sundry have had their say, one hundred years of hatred and envy has poured forth. No critisim is too much, no ancient slight or percived controversial loss has been left un-avenged and truly the mob has spoken. Rangers must be punished. Then again. then again. then again. Repeat until bored.

Sporting integrity is the new black (or should I say Japanese tour grey...). That fantastic little phrase © Lawwell '08 has made a comeback in a major way. Rangers we are told must not be allowed to darken the SPL's hallowed turf / sand again; they must be cast asunder and taught a lesson. And do you know what? I agree; we knew the rules because we bloody helped make them. We were part of the cabal and ran it arrogantly for our own means for far too long forgetting that one day even the mighty might just need a friend. We built a castle on sand and when it collapsed we should pay the price, no bailout for "the establishment".

But now the pygmies have spoken. Every no mark supporters group has had their say and "people power" has rescued the Scottish game, for after all what is the SPL without its integrity? Well pretty much the same as it is now. It's a flawed broken product were teams can play 18, 19 or 20 games home or away each season. Where Falkirk can't get in with a new ground being built but Gretna can swan in and ground share a swimming pool. Where special dispensation cannot be given to clubs to solve a fixture crisis but can Gretna can play Celtic at Almond vale. Where chairman speak of punishing Rangers for their fiscal failures while presiding over £33 million of debt.

But with those big nasty bigots from Govan the spl is going to thrive. Blue chip sponsors will rush to buy into the new super competitive league were any one of half a dozen teams can come second to Celtic! Sky will no doubt cancel super Sunday to broadcast Dundee vs. Ross County from a packed Dens park as families have picnics outside the new sectarian free grounds of the spl. Everybody will hold hands and sing when hopefully in a few years Rangers will gain a place in this footballing Utopia. Maybe that day will coincide with Rooney signing on at Aberdeen citing "pure financial greed" as the motivation for his move to the best league in the world?

I'd at least have respect for any fans group who simply said "yeah we just want to stick it to the Rangers" instead of hiding behind clichéd phrases. But what of this sporting integrity? Surely it should be followed through to the last and most Rangers fans agree. Apparently we only want to go to the third division to see others in financial trouble, it's awfully good when people tell you what you are thinking isn't it? For me and many others that is not the case, we want to go to the third division to start again, to build anew. We want to build bridges and if not forget the past then at least be given a chance to put it behind us. We have been punished more severely than others already (just how many points did Motherwell get docked?), but for some no punishment is enough. The twitching corpse must be flogged until it bleeds no more.

We do not want any parachute into the first division and it is being forced upon us by the self-same chairmen who proclaimed that sporting integrity has no price. Well apparently it does and its roughly £1 million a year plus play offs. But again this isn't the case, it's all being done to help the Rangers, the hibs fans know this for a fact. Perhaps one of them should ask their chairman why he's the main architect of the plan.

Scottish football is in a dire state but nobody really seems to care, its all Rangers fault anyway. The reformation of the game should not be tacked onto the demise and rehabilitation of rangers. It is an issue in its own right and a far more important issue at that. There will hopefully always be Rangers, a St Mirren, Kilmarnock and Dundee united too. Scotland's needs football, healthy competitive football because its woven into the very fabric of our society.

Right now the baws burst but instead of fixing the puncture people are hell bent on picking the seam...

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What other nations of similar size have a better standard of league than Scotland?

If we are truly so pish why have we greatly outperformed far larger nations for decades?

Why are Scottish football fans such aresholes?

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I got a bank charge the other day, was my fault you know. See I completely messed up my budget but now I guess I'll have to pay the fine and just get on with it. Shame I'm not a football club then I could just blame Rangers...

Actually, It's a shame you're not rangers because then you could not bother paying it back at all <_<

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