Captain_Sensible Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 so groundsmen, cleaners, bar staff, office staff, car park attentands, food sellers, etc etc are all bigots and should be sacked? They all deserve to lose their jobs, each and every one of them. Yeah you are a nice guy Yeh, I know. People of earn a living from the exploitation of sectarianism aren't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 so groundsmen, cleaners, bar staff, office staff, car park attentands, food sellers, etc etc are all bigots and should be sacked? Yeah you are a nice guy If anyone loses their job at Ibrox it will solely be down to the fact that Green has overspent on SPL rejects. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 If anyone loses their job at Ibrox it will solely be down to the fact that Green has overspent on SPL rejects. There are interesting parallels with his time at Sheffield Utd developing here. Do Sevco fans know what his nickname was at Bramhall Lane and why?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 There are interesting parallels with his time at Sheffield Utd developing here. Do Sevco fans know what his nickname was at Bramhall Lane and why?. What was it ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Found this called 'A United view on Football' and it has an article on 'The Hatchet Man' titled: Charles Green, he sells the team My link Edited August 20, 2012 by CityDave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I have to give some credit to Bendarroch and Forever Blue in particular for their contribution to this thread since it became safe for those who support Rangers to raise their heads above the parapet and kid on everything was the same as it had always been because a team of some description is playing at Ibrox again. But those who can look from afar know that the landscape will never be the same for many years to come. Rangers - followed by those charged with running football in this country - have provoked the single most embarassing episode in the history of Scottish football. A club that was so big it already dwarfed every single club in the country bar one spent £millions and £millions to prove themselves better than that other club. We will know soon enough whether they spent money improperly over a sustained period. The view of HMRC is that they certainly did. The paperwork seen by the BBC suggests that they did. And, even if they didn't, all paperwork was not submitted to the SFA so a breach occurred - the sort of breach which in an isolated case would see a team in bother (see recent Scottish Cup cases). Rangers fans will blame juan guy. They lapped up the "off the radar" stuff. They refused to believe what was staring them in the face even when it was staring them in the face (Vanguard Bears?). For years they demanded that someone else hurl money into their club so they could lord it over Celtic - never mind the rest. "WATP" - they expected nothing less than to be Simply the Best. Rangers FC left a trail of debt as long as your arm behind them. Still to be quantified but comfortably greater than anything Scottish football is ever likely to see again. To be fair to Rangers supporters, nobody saw it coming. The authorities were hopelessly ill-prepared for something seismic like this. When it happened they collectively shat themselves. If it hadn't been for the diddy supporters rocking up to their chairmen and getting them tellt, Rangers would be in the SPL. The desperation shown by those leading the game can offer no confidence that, if found guilty, Rangers will receive any meaningful punishment. This will give succour to the Bendarrochs, Forever Blues and all on Rangers Media that they are too big to receive a penalty that fits their misdemeanours. No wonder they think they are the people. It would be helpful if the football authorities made a clear statement on this current version of Rangers. Are they the same club, are they an 1872 continuation? Are the authorities content to separate club and company - bearing in mind the facts which underpin the club/company relationship? Without a clear, independent statement (and possibly even with one) there will be years and years of "We are Rangers" ... "No you're no'". It will be thrilling stuff - we've seen evidence of that since the start of the season. One way or another, this will finally be resolved. But the game will take years and years to recover. Not in terms of finance - that will resolve pretty quickly. The spirit of the game in Scotland has been wrecked. Those who have watched Rangers stick 2 fingers up at a level of debt which - even when expressed in ratio terms against the size of the club - would have seen others killed off are sick at the sychophantic arse-licking of the SPL and everyone else who "needs a strong Rangers". Rangers fans who are delighted still to have a club are being out-shouted by those who want revenge on their enemies - led of course by Jardine and others in positions of authority at Ibrox including Charles "nobody speaks up for Rangers" Green. That's possibly one of the most ironic elements of this entire episode - they think nobody has fought their corner when half the problems have arisen because people in charge were saying one thing and doing another (aye Stuart Regan ... especially you). When they get back to the SPL - whether 1 year or 3 - there will still be hell to pay. With a £4m tax bill already on the burner, a £9m PAYE shortfall added in, a trail of football debts and a bigger trail of non football related debt they could have been hoyed out. If it turns out that they have in fact serially cheated for 12 years on top of all the other stuff, what case can possibly be made for keeping them. I have no axe to grind with Rangers - I'd feel the same about any other club who went out of their way to defraud on a massive scale. Only one other club could possibly achieve this level right enough. By f**k that's taken some time to ramble through and no doubt the Bears will rip it whilst others cannae be arsed reading it (probably rightly so!). But arguing the rights and wrongs of whether they are the same club misses the point that, if they are, they are an absolute disgrace to the game. And if they are not, then they were a disgrace and those trying to reclaim the name are welcome to it - the name of Rangers will be tainted for generations to come. And the SPL titles that Celtic rack up in the meantime will also be "tainted" in their own way. 2 horse race, 1 horse race - makes no odds to those who are not horses at the race though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Found this called 'A United view on Football' and it has an article on 'The Hatchet Man' titled: Charles Green, he sells the team My link Cheers. A puppet. If I was a sevcovian I would be worried 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Did you have anything new to say? Do you?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Yeah am looking forward to the game tomorrow night, this is a football forum right? Who you watching tomorrow night, Wednesday ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Sharp as a pin eh? Had not realised what time it was, all this keyboard warrior stuff eats time :-) Enjoy the game tonight :-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Yeah am looking forward to the game tomorrow night, this is a football forum right? This is not a match thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Rangers - followed by those charged with running football in this country - have provoked the single most embarassing episode in the history of Scottish football. I really don't think so. Do you? Really? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 People who earn a living from the exploitation of sectarianism deserve to lose their jobs. I thought the rocket who wanted to rewrite the history on the war-dead was pretty out there - but, your mince is close to being every bit as stupid and batshit crazy. Tea lady at Ibrox to lose job as sectarian exploitation is brought to it's knees by a St Mirren fan on a fitba forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Falkirk's season ticket sales increased btw. More or less than the thirty (yes, 30) extra reported for St Mirren? I don't think the boy at Falkirk should lose his job, but, if he does, you can thank the people who have campaigned tirelessly to remove all signs of dissent, offence and anything else even remotely contentious from the world of football. Like the junkie fud on here writing to the trading standards and three (mibbe as many as four) others who backed him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I really don't think so. Do you? Really? I look forward to you debating with this HTG fella. He will eat and shite you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) More or less than the thirty (yes, 30) extra reported for St Mirren? So season ticket sales are up for both clubs ! How are season ticket sales at Ibrox compared to last season .... at a third off of course ? Edited August 21, 2012 by Ned Nederlander 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I look forward to you debating with this HTG fella. He will eat and shite you. Judging by the poorly thought out and badly written tirade he offered up I wouldn't have thought so. HTG said: "I have no axe to grind with Rangers." That diminutive, contradictory gem was delivered close to the end of a pejorative onslaught that Spiers himself would have been proud of. Albeit written more coherently. HTG also thinks The Rangers 'provoked the single most embarassing episode in the history of Scottish football.' That's conspicuously not true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Judging by the poorly thought out and badly written tirade he offered up I wouldn't have thought so. HTG said: "I have no axe to grind with Rangers." That diminutive, contradictory gem was delivered close to the end of a pejorative onslaught that Spiers himself would have been proud of. Albeit written more coherently. HTG also thinks The Rangers 'provoked the single most embarassing episode in the history of Scottish football.' That's conspicuously not true I'm struggling to think of a singularly more embarrassing episode if I'm honest. What would you put forward? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm struggling to think of a singularly more embarrassing episode if I'm honest. What would you put forward? Can't think of one either. Looking forward to hear his examples. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So season ticket sales are up for both clubs ! How are season ticket sales at Ibrox compared to last season .... at a third off of course ? Last season we sold around 36,000 and (so far) we are close to 34,000 for this season. I fear season ticket sales might only be sixteen or seventeen times those of St integrity. It's difficult to know with any degree of certainty prior to sales closing. I have no idea on Falkirk numbers - 500 - 700? 853? 921? I'll get back to you when the final figures are released. I understand your interest in our greatest if clubs - much appreciated! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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