gieitlaldy Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I fit your definition as i moved to Scotland in 88 and think I know more about anti Irish sentiment than you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gieitlaldy Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 My point is it exists. To suggest otherwise is sweeping bigotry under the carpet. Who does that help? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gieitlaldy Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ok let me reiterate. It is a Scottish society problem, rather than just a few. However it is on the decrease 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gieitlaldy Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 And in any case what makes you so qualified to make a judgment on this matter? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ok let me reiterate. It is a Scottish society problem, rather than just a few. However it is on the decrease I think the point you're missing from Rico's post is that the problem is nowhere near on a par with the treatment of black Americans in the 60's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gieitlaldy Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Of course it's nothing like that. However my point is it exists across all classes of Scottish society (becoming less outside of central belt) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing (2) Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I think the point you're missing from Rico's post is that the problem is nowhere near on a par with the treatment of black Americans in the 60's. Aye, 'cos they weren't allowed at Augusta apart from being caddies.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Of course it's nothing like that. However my point is it exists across all classes of Scottish society (becoming less outside of central belt) He didn't deny it existed.....so Rico's point is correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 S club 7? That was actually mildly amusing Bennett. Don't let it happen again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 S club 7? weren't they Club 12 for a wee while in the interval between the completely different Rangers and The Rangers clubs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 weren't they Club 12 for a wee while in the interval between the completely different Rangers and The Rangers clubs? Ain't no party like a Club 12 party? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) I've one of those genuine questions again: How come Rangers don't have a credit line or overdraft facility or whatever? I'd always kind of assumed it was because of the mess which peaked in 2012, meaning 'Rangers' had a long way to go to earn trust after that. Regardless of how continuation of the club is viewed however, what we now have is a completely new company, so why have they no such facility? Surely it's not the norm for new companies to have no means of borrowing from banks, or is it? As you can tell, I'm totally clueless about this stuff and have no doubt asked a bloody stupid question. Could some kind soul humour me by answering it though please? Edited November 2, 2014 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gieitlaldy Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 They're a financial basket case and were 24 hours from admin2 last week... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Are you Irish ? If yes then you can comment. If not take it from me Scottish society has an anti Irish bias I would say that a Scot has every right to comment on Scottish society, wouldn't you? You will always find bias in society but it is nowhere near the extent that Philip claims it is, most people just get on with their lives. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 They're a financial basket case and were 24 hours from admin2 last week... Don't believe everything that the Toxic one says. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 MT maybe if ask yourself what you would have done had you been in charge of customer loans/lending at a bank and a new customer came along. Due diligence and all that stuff ... would you have risked it with the characters involved. Well, the answer to that is obvious, but I don't remember it being remarked upon at the time, that the failure to have such a facility reflected a lack of confidence in the regime. As I recall, it was just kind of accepted as a given that Newco would be unable to secure credit from the outset, due to the events which preceded its creation. I'm maybe totally mistaken in this recollection - just not sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Who was doing the PR media spin for the clumpany at that time? Or do you mean the P&D and internet bloggers? If the latter .. was it not the case there was just too much laughter going on at other things to give it much thought? Edit: The bears never questioned anything so I assumed you were not referring to them. Well I'm just talking generally. I don't remember the absence of such a facility being either a particular scoop in the MSM, or being exploited for laughs by the internet bampots. I'm just interested to learn whether it had to be thus, or as you suggest, it reflected the fact that we were dealing with another recognised basket case right from the get-go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) Anyways, here is the article in question from Phil http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/apr/13/irish-heritage-scotland-cultural-oppression If McKenna is happy to be Scottish in Scotland then I'm happy for him. It is basic human right to be able to self-define. However many others of Irish extraction find that their seat is still at the back of the bus in Scotland. I finally left Glasgow in the mid-1990s. I wanted better for my young family. Since then my native city's intolerance of all things Irish has, if anything, got worse He has such a deep seeded hatred of Scotland, I would go as far as saying he is anti scottish I don't owe the place a thing. Edited November 2, 2014 by Enrico Annoni 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The "back of the bus" line is laughable and thoroughly insulting to groups who have experienced such genuine discrimination. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 We Are All Phil. Except me. And Rico. And bennett. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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