pollymac Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Have a wee look at your Desmond's repeated mentions in the various corruption inquiry's in the South of Ireland and the tie in with De-beers of blood diamond fame merits a mention don't you think. It probably merits a mention, but I'm at a loss as to why it's at all relevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Dunfermline feel left out Hibs are not safe yet! To add to the above list, about 90-95% of our first team squad are out of contract (I'm unsure of an exact figure however it's quite high), I'm unsure about the youth players though. Our contingency plan was in place whether Rangers were there at the end of the season or not. Sheesh, thought I done the lot, will edit... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Don't have the figures to hand but I wouldn't have thought Celtic have spent anywhere as much on transfer fees during that spell? Rangers blew a ridiculous amount of money on Kyle Lafferty & Sebo Fixed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steward17 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 It probably merits a mention, but I'm at a loss as to why it's at all relevant. Well if we are taking a holier than thou finance stance a wee glance in the mirror regarding Celtics benefactor is perhaps relevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 It probably merits a mention, but I'm at a loss as to why it's at all relevant. Maybe because it is the soft loans from good ol dermott that has kept celtic going since Fergus left...How many share issues has he underwrote? 4 or 5 is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Well if we are taking a holier than thou finance stance a wee glance in the mirror regarding Celtics benefactor is perhaps relevant. You know, I remember asking this last time you attempted to have a pop at Celtic, still never got an answer from you, so I'll ask again. What team do you support? And please don't use the " I can't say because I'm a steward" line again. Your job ain't relevant. Bit like your point 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Well if we are taking a holier than thou finance stance a wee glance in the mirror regarding Celtics benefactor is perhaps relevant. Not, it's not relevant at all. This about the methods of financing/propping up an SPL club, not the personal finances of shareholders. I would imagine that amongst the very, very large number of Celtic shareholders that there are more than one or two who have been convicted of speeding, assault, murder and numerous other crimes. Which is also irrelevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Kaiser Desmond's ok, he ripped off the Irish Taxpayer to cheat Celtic's path to titles, not the HMRC. http://politico.ie/politics/4999-charlie-haugheys-finances-the-kaiser-and-the-boss.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Maybe because it is the soft loans from good ol dermott that has kept celtic going since Fergus left...How many share issues has he underwrote? 4 or 5 is it? 3, to an amount much, much less than the £51m put in by Moonbeams a few years ago and one of which where a large amount of the money went to Fergus McCann. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Kaiser Desmond's ok, he ripped off the Irish Taxpayer to cheat Celtic's path to titles, not the HMRC. http://politico.ie/politics/4999-charlie-haugheys-finances-the-kaiser-and-the-boss.html Really? 'He ripped off the Irish Taxpayer to cheat Celtic's path to titles'. He bought shares in Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Really? 'He ripped off the Irish Taxpayer to cheat Celtic's path to titles'. He bought shares in Celtic. With money he got from Government contracts he bribed Haughey to give him.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 140 years of history says differently.. Actually 120 years of pandering to bigotry. The first twenty you were the sum total of f**k all in Scottish football, nothing more than Queen's Park, Third Lanark, Vale Of Leven and Renton's bitches. A coincidence of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steward17 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Not, it's not relevant at all. This about the methods of financing/propping up an SPL club, not the personal finances of shareholders. I would imagine that amongst the very, very large number of Celtic shareholders that there are more than one or two who have been convicted of speeding, assault, murder and numerous other crimes. Which is also irrelevant. As long as Desmond has not put any money from his less that squeaky clean operation into the running of Celtic or acquiring assets its relevant but alas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 With money he got from Government contracts he bribed Haughey to give him.. Aye, when the Irish Government sold him London City airport for £25m, he fair done a number on them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steward17 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Actually 120 years of pandering to bigotry. The first twenty you were the sum total of f**k all in Scottish football, nothing more than Queen's Park, Third Lanark, Vale Of Leven and Renton's bitches. A coincidence of course. Spot on without bigotry both of the ugly sisters would be little more than a large Partick Thistle (no offense intended to the Jags) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 As long as Desmond has not put any money from his less that squeaky clean operation into the running of Celtic or acquiring assets its relevant but alas. He told me just the other day that apart from his initial £4m investment in 1994, all of the shares in Celtic he's purchased since, has come from his London City mattress. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 So how come, with all the financial cheating Rangers have been doing over the last 10-15 years that Celtic have pretty much matched them? Penny wise vs Pound foolish. Celtic were VERY fortunate enough to have Fergus McCann come in and bring some financial sanity to the place. The famous story about him and the late Tommy Burns over a bidding war with Rangers (and McCann being something of the wee boy calling out the truth of the King's new clothes) encapsulates the whole tribal based "oneupmanship" lunacy that was certain to end in ruin for one or both of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Penny wise vs Pound foolish. Celtic were VERY fortunate enough to have Fergus McCann come in and bring some financial sanity to the place. The famous story about him and the late Tommy Burns over a bidding war with Rangers (and McCann being something of the wee boy calling out the truth of the King's new clothes) encapsulates the whole tribal based "oneupmanship" lunacy that was certain to end in ruin for one or both of them. It's worth pointing out that since 2000, Rangers business did not grow at all. In fact, it can easily be argued that it shrunk - CL payments went massively up, yet turnover remained largely static. In fact, in recent non-CL years it had decreased from non-CL years in 02 & 03 by a few million. In contrast, during the same period, Celtic's income had pretty much doubled. I'm not sure who it was, possibly that former director Adams?? who said that the Rangers board was filled with guys there for the social aspect and never had much input in the running of the club. Celtic appointed guys from British-American Tobacco, The Bank of England, etc. Even so, had Celtic maintained the spend of Barnes/Dalglish and early O'Neill, they too would be facing meltdown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steward17 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Aye, when the Irish Government sold him London City airport for £25m, he fair done a number on them. Nope but he did do a number on the Irish people(several actually) rather apt don't you think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 He told me just the other day that apart from his initial £4m investment in 1994, all of the shares in Celtic he's purchased since, has come from his London City mattress. And where did he get the money to buy the airport? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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