THE KING Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Even Leeds fans disagree that Rangers is the same, or are Leeds fans just all bitter obsessed types too?.. http://www.motforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=27006&p=422639 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Celtic fans took to social media to distance themselves from the publication of the advert.In December SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster insisted that Rangers are the same club which existed before liquidation.He said: "In terms of the question about old club, new club, that was settled very much by the Lord Nimmo Smith commission that was put together by the SPL to look at EBT payments at that time.The decision, very clearly from the commission, was that the club is the same, the club continues, albeit it is owned by a new company, but the club is the same.Its the same club, absolutely.The member club is the entity that participates in our league and we have 42 member clubs You know you've hit an all time low, when Neil Doncaster is your "go to" for a quote. Entity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Aye its all a conspiracy by the big bad SFA the establishment m9, just you content yourself with that. I'm perfectly content since we won the Scottish Cup last season and finished 3rd in the league not bad for a little club. Have Sevco Scotland won any major trophies yet?. The SFA are the governing body, but as we all know they make mistakes and as we have witnessed got taken in by a chancer, a liar and a fraud called Charles Green, just see your self as fortunate he still isn't running your club otherwise it could have been the football equivalent of cowboy builders only the poor folks that got ripped off still aren't aware they have been done or maybe they are living in denial. Yes The Tedi if you paid for anything to do with Rangers under Charles Green including going to watch your team at Ibrox you were ripped off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Even Leeds fans disagree that Rangers is the same, or are Leeds fans just all bitter obsessed types too?..http://www.motforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=27006&p=422639 ^^^^ Gutless bear creates profile on an English team's forum as a jags fan. What a riddy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 A quote referencing Lord Nimmo Smith, One of Scotlands top legal figures is an all time low apparently, maybe I should have quoted from a blog. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 A quote referencing Lord Nimmo Smith, One of Scotlands top legal figures is an all time low apparently, maybe I should have quoted from a blog. Did you hold up a red card to liquidation, or give to the fighting fund, champ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 The CVA failed....the entity known as Leeds utd was sold to a newco, this was ratified by FA and the company that was classed as a football club was liquidated, the newco were given the licence that the oldco had and they were allowed to stay in the same division. How did Rangers get on? exactly the same apart from the decision of staying in the same division was put to vote. Were Leeds not a voluntary liquidation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 The Leeds CVA was approaved then the assets were sold, afterwards on the last day for a challenge (28 days) hmrc challenged the CVA , after the assets had been sold. This prompted the FA to dock Leeds 15 points for the next season for failing to come out of admin via a CVA , but because the assets were sold during a CVA approval they remained the same club. Rangers CVA failed and the assest were liquidated, even then Rangers were given the chance to stay in the SPL but with points deductions ala Leeds , Rangers refused , and reformed as a new club at the bottom . And the assets of Rangers were sold after the CVA was rejected. It never failed. It was rejected. What happens when the fraudulently obtained assets belonging to Rangers are returned as the law dictates? Who gets to claim that they are the club? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Celtic fans took to social media to distance themselves from the publication of the advert. In December SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster insisted that Rangers are the same club which existed before liquidation. He said: "In terms of the question about old club, new club, that was settled very much by the Lord Nimmo Smith commission that was put together by the SPL to look at EBT payments at that time. “The decision, very clearly from the commission, was that the club is the same, the club continues, albeit it is owned by a new company, but the club is the same. “It’s the same club, absolutely. “The member club is the entity that participates in our league and we have 42 member clubs Telling me that Neil Doncaster and Lord Nimmo Smith agree with fraudster Charles Green is not proof that Sevco Scotland and Rangers FC are the same club, you're only telling me who was in favour of putting Sevco Scotland across as the genuine article. Just like everyone else they needed to be convinced by evidence, a Rangers fan mewling away on a football forum everyday when challenged on the subject only comes up with names, this is not evidence. I have never seen any evidence that this Rangers are the same club other than both sharing similar characteristic behaviour and their fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) And the assets of Rangers were sold after the CVA was rejected. It never failed. It was rejected. What happens when the fraudulently obtained assets belonging to Rangers are returned as the law dictates? Who gets to claim that they are the club? Can Dave King pay the market value of the assets, to start a new club? Edited September 9, 2015 by dave.j 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Can Dave King pay the market value of the asserts, to start a new club? Yeah or Mike Ashley could buy them to build a sports direct warehouse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 exactly the same, hope that helps AWRA banned again, next time champ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 AWRA banned again, next time champ. Good work from the mods. Some of his posts today were disgusting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 City Dave reporting posters for laughing at his posts...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Same as Leeds, if not then the original company that you insist is the club would be owned by the newco complete with its original and much older incorporation date, as is the case with Hearts 1905, however the oldo Leeds with the older incorporation date is deed, the result of a failed CVA. What about the alleged fraudulently obtained assets? If they are returned to Rangers then who gets to claim to be the club? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Bennett sticking up for bigots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Telling me that Neil Doncaster and Lord Nimmo Smith agree with fraudster Charles Green is not proof that Sevco Scotland and Rangers FC are the same club, you're only telling me who was in favour of putting Sevco Scotland across as the genuine article. Just like everyone else they needed to be convinced by evidence, a Rangers fan mewling away on a football forum everyday when challenged on the subject only comes up with names, this is not evidence. I have never seen any evidence that this Rangers are the same club other than both sharing similar characteristic behaviour and their fans. If the legal and footballing authorities can't convince you then I reckon we have two options. 1. You are at the wind up. 2. You believe what macclumpany and other bloggers blog. Personally I find the lengths that some of you knew clubbers go to, quite amusing..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 What about the alleged fraudulently obtained assets? If they are returned to Rangers then who gets to claim to be the club? Tough question. It's handy for the Berz to talk new club old club til the cows come home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Dave King, chairman of a company which fraudulently obtained the assets of dying club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Can Dave King pay the market value of the assets, to start a new club? So far, there's been no proof that Dave King can pay market value for a Mars Bar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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