Chubbychops Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, TxRover said: It’ll take a big wedge to do that, and with relegation and team woes, why wouldn’t he look to a better placed team? Pars are a bigger club than a lot of current better placed teams? Lots of potential to fullfil and has very strong link to the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Just now, Chubbychops said: Pars are a bigger club than a lot of current better placed teams? Lots of potential to fullfil and has very strong link to the club. Agree on link, bigger club than better placed is marginal, as he’d be a viable candidate for any top of the Championship job, and so right now potential is not really an easy choice favoring the Pars. The biggest problem is where does the cash come from? ST and ticket revenue will likely fall by at least 50%, there are probably contracts that are badly overpriced for League One and don’t have clauses, and you’ve paid off Grant and Hughes? That’s a problem, eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Anyone willing to come in and boot fucking Chalmers is alright in my book. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, TxRover said: Agree on link, bigger club than better placed is marginal, as he’d be a viable candidate for any top of the Championship job, and so right now potential is not really an easy choice favoring the Pars. The biggest problem is where does the cash come from? ST and ticket revenue will likely fall by at least 50%, there are probably contracts that are badly overpriced for League One and don’t have clauses, and you’ve paid off Grant and Hughes? That’s a problem, eh? If we appoint a decent manager I don't see St falling by half at all, they were dreadful last year with Grant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Get the managerial appointment right and in good time, ST sales could comfortably pass last year’s. Hold on to Hughes (or appoint another fud), however, we’ll struggle to hit 1000. Hopefully Cook being around for a few months means he’s been able to see what’s gone so horribly wrong at the club and that he can rectify them quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Could Greg Shields be offered the managers job if Hughes goes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbychops Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 49 minutes ago, TxRover said: Agree on link, bigger club than better placed is marginal, as he’d be a viable candidate for any top of the Championship job, and so right now potential is not really an easy choice favoring the Pars. The biggest problem is where does the cash come from? ST and ticket revenue will likely fall by at least 50%, there are probably contracts that are badly overpriced for League One and don’t have clauses, and you’ve paid off Grant and Hughes? That’s a problem, eh? I don't know how much we will be due to Hughes and Grant. Depends on the clauses. It's pure guess work to say they do or don't have clauses. We're going to need a manager regardless if as expected Hughes departs. I also don't know how much the owners will decide to take a hit on to improve their investment. All speculation. As a mere fan, I will fantasize about potential replacements and wait to see what happens in reality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Could Greg Shields be offered the managers job if Hughes goes?If McArthur was still here I wouldn’t have ruled it out but I really can’t see it happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 48 minutes ago, Grant228 said: If we appoint a decent manager I don't see St falling by half at all, they were dreadful last year with Grant. ST might not fall that far, given the recent revelations of just how poor they were. Other tickets will be slashed, with average attendance at the League One level running about 35% of Championship average. Granted, you might hold a higher average percentage, but it’s pretty unlikely given the discontent. A sterling managerial appointment might help, but top choice managers seldom look to manage at that level, and those few that do often have alternative reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 If you sack Hughes you could find yourselves paying the salaries of 3 managers for more than a year in the third tier of Scottish football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbychops Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Beachbum said: If you sack Hughes you could find yourselves paying the salaries of 3 managers for more than a year in the third tier of Scottish football. No foundation to this though. You don't know what clauses we had. Wishful thinking on your part, if you think we will be paying 3 full salaries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, TxRover said: ST might not fall that far, given the recent revelations of just how poor they were. Other tickets will be slashed, with average attendance at the League One level running about 35% of Championship average. Granted, you might hold a higher average percentage, but it’s pretty unlikely given the discontent. A sterling managerial appointment might help, but top choice managers seldom look to manage at that level, and those few that do often have alternative reasons. I'm sorry but that stat has little relevance to the point you're trying to make. The discussion point for our attendances will be the away crowds, with Falkirk being down there that'll soften that blow, while if we're doing well and if we appoint a manager the fans can get behind I wouldn't be shocked to see home attendances rise. 2 minutes ago, Beachbum said: If you sack Hughes you could find yourselves paying the salaries of 3 managers for more than a year in the third tier of Scottish football. That's not how severance tends to work at this level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 If you sack Hughes you could find yourselves paying the salaries of 3 managers for more than a year in the third tier of Scottish football. Nah think Grant was a 1 year rolling deal so will be due to stop paying him soon (I fucking hope!) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Grant228 said: I'm sorry but that stat has little relevance to the point you're trying to make. The discussion point for our attendances will be the away crowds, with Falkirk being down there that'll soften that blow, while if we're doing well and if we appoint a manager the fans can get behind I wouldn't be shocked to see home attendances rise. That's not how severance tends to work at this level. Falkirk, OK. But Alloa…Peterhead…Edinburgh City (perhaps)…Montrose…Clyde (at a new home)…that’s half the league drawing under 1000, most under 700, and that’s the available numbers from when both Falkirk and Raith were in the league. Sure, you’ll likely better the away number Raith brought, but Falkirk’s numbers are still down. And what’s Kelty drawing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rob1885 said: 11 minutes ago, Beachbum said: If you sack Hughes you could find yourselves paying the salaries of 3 managers for more than a year in the third tier of Scottish football. Nah think Grant was a 1 year rolling deal so will be due to stop paying him soon (I fucking hope!) Where did you hear that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbychops Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, TxRover said: Falkirk, OK. But Alloa…Peterhead…Edinburgh City (perhaps)…Montrose…Clyde (at a new home)…that’s half the league drawing under 1000, most under 700, and that’s the available numbers from when both Falkirk and Raith were in the league. Sure, you’ll likely better the away number Raith brought, but Falkirk’s numbers are still down. And what’s Kelty drawing? Kelty would probably bring as many as Rovers have this season.. There will be a big novelty factor with that fixture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorge Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Shandon Par said: Petrie has said he’d go to a full-time club “if it was the right offer”. You have to wonder if he spoke to his old team mate Crawford and if there have been things that have put him off before. SP is contracted until 2025 with us, so he'll be a more expensive option than some, even if he does now feel like a crack at FT. I'd rather he buggered off to you lot than those b*****ds down the A92 in fairness, but would still rather keep him here in case we appoint some utter donkey like the one you've got just now. (Looking forward to finally visiting EEP next season - hear good things about the catering. The most important part of the day, natch) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, TxRover said: Falkirk, OK. But Alloa…Peterhead…Edinburgh City (perhaps)…Montrose…Clyde (at a new home)…that’s half the league drawing under 1000, most under 700, and that’s the available numbers from when both Falkirk and Raith were in the league. Sure, you’ll likely better the away number Raith brought, but Falkirk’s numbers are still down. And what’s Kelty drawing? Again, what relevance does it have to us what other teams home attendances are? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Where did you hear that?The old inn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brashy's Boots Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 SP is contracted until 2025 with us, so he'll be a more expensive option than some, even if he does now feel like a crack at FT. I'd rather he buggered off to you lot than those b*****ds down the A92 in fairness, but would still rather keep him here in case we appoint some utter donkey like the one you've got just now. (Looking forward to finally visiting EEP next season - hear good things about the catering. The most important part of the day, natch) Wee bit harsh. What have we done to you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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