Silverton End Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 ApacheSon - there is a Diadora shirt on eBay for £39.99 size XL. Seller is in The Ukraine #SonsOfTheCrimea 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonsanorak Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Hard night tonight with st mirren bossing us whilst we had an off night.Mango should put the ball out before the first; the second is a nightmare and by then we're done.I hear that livvy are a long ball team; that might suit our defence more than tonights opponents. Here's hoping.I can also see Paul Sturrock and Laurie Ellis taking over D Utd before next Tuesday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Ian Wilson in the reporter talking about the stadium move - http://www.dumbartonreporter.co.uk/news/16119501.Dumbarton_FC_fall_at_first_hurdle_in_bid_to_get_outline_planning_permission_for_new_stadium_from_Planning_councillors/ I find this bit fairly unsettling: “It is unlikely that my fellow investors will have the appetite to pursue a lengthy appeal to the Scottish Government if the proposals are refused once and for all. This week’s decision is therefore critical in securing a long term future for the club and much needed facilities for the local community.” If this is rejected today I fear for us. Will Brabco look to find a favourable buyer of the club if they want out? I doubt it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 When is the meeting scheduled to start today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Potentially looking at being relegated and being put up for sale in the space of a few months. That always ends well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Ian Wilson in the reporter talking about the stadium move - http://www.dumbartonreporter.co.uk/news/16119501.Dumbarton_FC_fall_at_first_hurdle_in_bid_to_get_outline_planning_permission_for_new_stadium_from_Planning_councillors/ I find this bit fairly unsettling: “It is unlikely that my fellow investors will have the appetite to pursue a lengthy appeal to the Scottish Government if the proposals are refused once and for all. This week’s decision is therefore critical in securing a long term future for the club and much needed facilities for the local community.” If this is rejected today I fear for us. Will Brabco look to find a favourable buyer of the club if they want out? I doubt it. It’s unsettling because it’s so transparent. Who really believes they care about ‘long term future’ or ‘much needed facilities’? Investment return seems to me the only objective here and if that involves plopping an historic sports club in a Renton swamp or paving the way for its deletion entirely then so be it. Edited March 28, 2018 by Consolidate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 For reasons disconnected from common sense I expect the Council to overturn the Planning Committee recommendation, but that merely changes the colour of the elephant on the club badge from black to white. I have utterly no confidence in Brabco to deliver a coherent road plan never mind a full stadium development, and as Consolidate points out above, it all then becomes an exit strategy for them, especially if the team is relegated. This will get messy, and soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 46 minutes ago, BallochSonsFan said: When is the meeting scheduled to start today? 1.30pm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1.30pm. So around 5pm will probably be massive for the club whatever the decision is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Leaving all the terrifying prospects aside there really is something seriously unlikeable about Ian Wilson. I'm not even talking like he's a bit of an arsehole, he's a full on smug bawbag who's face you'd never tire of punching.The fact Brabco have even remotely allowed him back into the public eye with this stadium move has me questioning if they actually have the mental capacity to plan and organise the building of a stadium. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Pretty irrelevant compared to recent events, but I got an e-mail today regarding the Retro at the Rock event, which had been switched to Barrowlands - it's been cancelled altogether now. Your Radio are now admitting that it's due to poor ticket sales, not the council refusing licences or anything like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Pretty irrelevant compared to recent events, but I got an e-mail today regarding the Retro at the Rock event, which had been switched to Barrowlands - it's been cancelled altogether now. Your Radio are now admitting that it's due to poor ticket sales, not the council refusing licences or anything like that. I wouldn't worry, The Charlatans have a long-standing residence down there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Muir Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I wouldn't worry, The Charlatans have a long-standing residence down there. Badum tish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Planning refused at Dalmoak. Narrow vote mind you, 10-9. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Howlin' Wilf said: Planning refused at Dalmoak. Narrow vote mind you, 10-9. Appeal, strategic brown envelope, job's done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Howlin' Wilf said: Planning refused at Dalmoak. Narrow vote mind you, 10-9. Hopefully there will be no snap judgements and all parties involved will take a bit of time to examine the implications and make a rational decision on what the next steps are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) I have always been of the view, expressed over several years here over the various plans, that the move not going ahead would have more serious consequences than it going ahead. That is where we are now. Funnily enough, I think the upshot of today's meeting would have had the same outcome no matter the decision. Both I think would have seen Brabco sell. If approved they'd have sold the idea with permission, to a developer and recouped their losses. As it is, unless they go for an appeal to the Scottish Government or a judicial review, (both high risk and high cost) then the only way that they have of recouping any of their money is to sell their shares in the club or selling the club's asset. Neil Rankine tried to sell the club for eight years and he had not one nibble that included the club staying where it was. Brabco have absolutely no chance of recouping their money by selling the shares. There could be trouble ahead. Edited March 28, 2018 by Howlin' Wilf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Howlin' Wilf said: Planning refused at Dalmoak. Narrow vote mind you, 10-9. Aye and two councillors didn't vote, presumably declaring an interest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nowhereman said: Aye and two councillors didn't vote, presumably declaring an interest McColl and Bollan both declared an interest. Anyone know what it is? Edited March 28, 2018 by Sonsteam of 08 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Sonsteam of 08 said: McColl and Bollan both declared an interest. Anyone know what it is? I'd guess they might be involved with local clubs who have supported the plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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