Colkitto Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 As previously stated, I'm not getting involved in the numbers game for the Rally last week, but this is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandSaint Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Had Fergus Ewing at the door this morning. Very nice guy, answered all the questions we put to him and was very straight in his answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Firstly you wrongly assumed I was speaking about Donaldson rather than Young when I talked about the SNP leader during WWII that was banged up in Saughton. As Donaldson wasn't SNP leader until well after WWII that was a schoolboy error. Now you seem to be suggesting I said Young was locked up for the duration of WWII. If you look back at what I originally said it was that he was banged up for "much" of WWII. Not all, not most but much. I'd stop now if I were you. We have to assume because once again, you will not develop your point. Stop dancing around the point and make it clear. Even ad lib is embarrassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Firstly you wrongly assumed I was speaking about Donaldson rather than Young when I talked about the SNP leader during WWII that was banged up in Saughton. As Donaldson wasn't SNP leader until well after WWII that was a schoolboy error. Now you seem to be suggesting I said Young was locked up for the duration of WWII. If you look back at what I originally said it was that he was banged up for "much" of WWII. Not all, not most but much. I'd stop now if I were you. Even Libby knows you're talking shite. You're a perfect example of someone who thinks they've made a clever point but who actually made a complete and utter fool of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Email from Police Scotland confirming attendance for Indy March between 20/30,000 Boom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Brace yourselves. The lawyers are coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bojangles Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Brace yourselves. The lawyers are coming. So, I'm guessing the journalist's conversation was something like "I heard there were more than 8,000 people at the rally." "Oh, yeah. there was far more than that." *writes "8000+"* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 As previously stated, I'm not getting involved in the numbers game for the Rally last week, but this is interesting. Fair enough. It begs the question how the 8k or so figure was quoted or to what it referred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Fair enough. It begs the question how the 8k or so figure was quoted or to what it referred. Yip, it certainly does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Fair enough. It begs the question how the 8k or so figure was quoted or to what it referred. Remember that 8300 "plus"? It was explained to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrier bag Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Fair enough. It begs the question how the 8k or so figure was quoted or to what it referred. They estimated the figure and divided it by three. Anyone that was at the event with the ability to think for themselves would tell you the figure Waaaay more than 8,000. I would have thought 18-20,000 would have been a more accurate figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Remember that 8300 "plus"? It was explained to you. This is why I want to know what the figure was referring to. It's too specific a figure to be readily confused with an actual crowd of 20,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 This is why I want to know what the figure was referring to. It's too specific a figure to be readily confused with an actual crowd of 20,000. Perhaps it is simply a case of the media reporting a figure that exact to make it seem more believable to an ordinary person. Shame that it didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 This is why I want to know what the figure was referring to. It's too specific a figure to be readily confused with an actual crowd of 20,000. The amount of police on duty, as explained at the time by more than one person! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGas Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I'm not sure what the relevance is about how many Scottish Labour may have been conscientous objectors. Colkitto's post mentioned WWII and that he felt Churchill would have debated whereas Cameron has refused. As the SNP leader was in Saughton for much of WWII Churchill would have needed a visiting order to debate with him. What are you struggling to understand about that. Was the SNP leader banged up for being a Nazi sympathiser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 The amount of police on duty, as explained at the time by more than one person! You're suggesting that more than 8300 police were on duty and that the media reported that as over 8300 people on the march? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGas Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Seen it now,the SNP leader whilst WWII was going on was locked up for being a horrible coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 You're suggesting that more than 8300 police were on duty and that the media reported that as over 8300 people on the march? You asked for an explanation over why the media reported the figure as 8,300. I've given you one, xbl has given you one. You suggest that he is insane to suggest the figure referred to the number of police at the march. I really don't know what you want. Are you just trying to bore the f**k out of people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 You asked for an explanation over why the media reported the figure as 8,300. I've given you one, xbl has given you one. You suggest that he is insane to suggest the figure referred to the number of police at the march. I really don't know what you want. Are you just trying to bore the f**k out of people? I find two things bizarre. Firstly, 1 police officer to 3 marchers seems like mega-overkill. Secondly I think it's bizarre that the media could either mix up or deliberately misrepresent without official Police Scotland public statements correcting the record (as opposed to an email to an enquirer) the number of officers on duty with the number of participants in the march. ETA: for perspective, the figure for the number of police officers in the whole of Scotland for March 2012 was 17,343. Are we seriously saying that 47.9% (+) of Scotland's entire police force was committed on a Saturday in which there were, inter alia, three football matches taking place in Glasgow, one in Leith and one in Aberdeen, to a political march in Edinburgh City Centre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Of course there were not 8300 police officers at the march The figure released by senior police officers of 8300 marchers would have correlated with the amount of officers that were utilised on the day to cover the event. It is a commonly used tactic used by police forces worldwide to cover their arses if an event gets out of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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