LongTimeLurker Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 ...because freedom of assembly is a fundamental human right protected by European Charter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Freedom of assembly is not the same as freedom to traipse along major routes of an urban area with dud 17th Century nonsense. Though perhaps the OO should exercise their right to assembly in a wider space. The M8, for example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 There was an orange march going past during my cricket game in Coatbridge. I'm blaming those bigoted fucks for getting me out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 There was an orange march going past during my cricket game in Coatbridge. I'm blaming those bigoted fucks for getting me out. Did you get bowled a jaffa? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 No, but some people simply can't stand the sight of a Union Flag and project their own hangups onto it in an exaggerated sort of way & not likely to be mistaken for a MENSA convention but more than just drunken jakey types lining the streets to watch the bands go by You'll be as quick to condemn the celebrations of the beginning of WW1 as well I take it? Or is that completely different? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Did you get bowled a jaffa? Nah, I got caught out, like Donald Findlay singing inappropriate songs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 You'll be as quick to condemn the celebrations of the beginning of WW1 as well I take it? Or is that completely different?Anyone who isn't a moron would condemn 'celebrations' of WW1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 What's wrong Gaz, you haven't said Mussus Bunfield for, oooh, at least a few posts.? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 But you can't say that, you haven't met them all. There might be a few nice supremacist bigots in amongst them. He was talking about the Apprentice Boys, not the OO - there is a difference, however small. However, I was trying to point out that using the language of the intolerant and the bigoted to criticise those that you think are intolerant and bigoted is a strange juxtaposition. In my opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) Anyone that openly carries a union jack in Scotland has leanings towards racist, extreme right wing brit nat groups like bnp, britain first, sdl, loyalist paramilitaries etc. There's never an "innocent" motive to someone carrying a uj in this country, in Scotland it's used as a flag of hate by these groups. I'm sorry but it's true. No, that's you trying to portray/smear those that you disagree with as being bigoted, is it not? I haven't carried a flag in years, mainly because I have grown to see them all as a bit silly, but if I chose to carry a Union Flag it would not make me bigoted or racist in any way. My job involves working to combat racism and sectarianism whilst trying to educate those guilty of it. Are you really saying that my carrying a flag would preclude this? Incidentally, I despise the racist groups you mention and utterly condemn all paramilitaries. I also like identifying those who are selective with their criticisms, like some on here who rush to criticise one side but, strangely, excuse the other. Edited May 24, 2014 by Audaces Fortuna Juvat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy85 Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Intolerance of bigots such as the OO should be applauded tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 What's wrong Gaz, you haven't said Mussus Bunfield for, oooh, at least a few posts.? What is that about anyway? been meaning to ask for ages but could never be bothered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 From a Harry Enfield sketch. Was mildly funny the first 300 times he used it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Intolerance of bigots such as the OO should be applauded tbh. As should intolerance of those who are selective with their moral condemnation. There are a few on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 He was talking about the Apprentice Boys, not the OO - there is a difference, however small. However, I was trying to point out that using the language of the intolerant and the bigoted to criticise those that you think are intolerant and bigoted is a strange juxtaposition. In my opinion. I was aware of that AFJ and from a brief bit of research it seems pretty obvious they're a sectarian supremacist organisation, or am I missing something? I hardly think calling scum, well scum, is either bigoted or intolerant. Especially those who go out of their way to advertise their general unpleasantness to the rest of the populace. You seem to be getting a touch defensive and are struggling to call a spade a shovel here, AFJ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 24, 2014 Author Share Posted May 24, 2014 You'll be as quick to condemn the celebrations of the beginning of WW1 as well I take it? Or is that completely different? Celebrating WW1, I hope you're not serious, only an idiot would celebrate such an event 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 As should intolerance of those who are selective with their moral condemnation. There are a few on here. Selective against bigot organisations and their apologists. Looks like we've got another one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 He was talking about the Apprentice Boys, not the OO - there is a difference, however small. However, I was trying to point out that using the language of the intolerant and the bigoted to criticise those that you think are intolerant and bigoted is a strange juxtaposition. In my opinion. No they are both a bunch of c***s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 You'll be as quick to condemn the celebrations of the beginning of WW1 as well I take it? Or is that completely different? Where are you getting condemnations of celebrations in what I have been posting? All I have been arguing is that some of the outbursts on this thread look a lot like what people claim to be opposed to (i.e. bigotry). In Scotland people use that word in a way that's a wee bit different from how it's defined in the dictionary, which is holding an opinion to an unreasonable extent that results in an intolerance of others, and use it in a tribal sort of way as a blanket description of entire groups of people that they don't like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Anyone that openly carries a union jack in Scotland has leanings towards racist, extreme right wing brit nat groups like bnp, britain first, sdl, loyalist paramilitaries etc. There's never an "innocent" motive to someone carrying a uj in this country, in Scotland it's used as a flag of hate by these groups. I'm sorry but it's true.Álvaro Arbeloa? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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