NotThePars Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, sophia said: Perhaps we both have. I'm too tired to interrogate so I'd just like to congratulate @NotThePars if they found my contribution to be helpful and if not I shall redouble my efforts to improve Thank you. If you find yourself struggling, I like to set myself some Posting Goals for the month and try to look at posters who are regular Big Hitters for tips and tricks on good posting. You owe it yourself and the forum to always stay improving. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Thane of Cawdor said: I lived in Hebburn in South Tyneside for a number of years. I was very surprised to find a a Protestant Conservative Club there with some Orange Lodge attached. Just up the road was the Iona Club (the Catholic Club). Never saw or heard a vestige of sectarianism from any of the locals although, I suppose, the founders of these institutions originated from Ireland. Apparently there was some 12th July celebration, but never heard or witnessed any marches. What I did hear and witness were the Juvenile Jazz Bands processing with their kazoos and making an infernal racket. I think these 'bands' have largely died out as a result of improvements in musical taste; if not, they should have been banned in my opinion. I have a very good friend from West Belfast who tells me that, prior to 'The Troubles' he and his siblings would be brought to the Lisburn Road to watch the 12th marches, at a time when they could be passed off as colourful folk customs. It's almost like Scotland is out of step with other places where catholics and protestants co-exist. It moves me to wonder.... What could we possibly attribute the amplification of hostilities to........ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Bairnardo said: It's almost like Scotland is out of step with other places where catholics and protestants co-exist. It moves me to wonder.... What could we possibly attribute the amplification of hostilities to........ Orange walks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 The real victims as always THE Grand Secretary of the Orange Order in Northern Ireland has urged Nicola Sturgeon not to introduce a Parades Commission - claiming it would be "biased" against Protestants. Rev Mervyn Gibson, said the introduction of a commission in the mould of Northern Ireland would result in more “division” and “intolerance”. He urged SNP ministers “not to dance to the tune of a small number of Roman Catholic protestors who don’t want a Protestant about the place”. The First Minister said on Thursday that she was considering setting up a Northern-Ireland style commission following 14 arrests at Orange walks last weekend. James Dornan (below), the SNP MSP for Glasgow Cathcart, raised the issue at FMQsand outlined his case in an article for The National on Sunday. Speaking at Holyrood, Dornan noted reports of “disgraceful anti-Catholic singing during the Orange Order marches throughout Glasgow” and said at least three had marched past Roman Catholic churches, causing “great distress”. He asked the First Minister to consider “the creation of a Parades Commission, similar to that in Northern Ireland”. Set up in 1998, that Parades Commission has the power to cancel, re-route or amend marches, including by barring the playing of music or the banning of certain individuals from attending. Sturgeon said she has instructed Justice Secretary Keith Brown to assess the merits of the proposal. But Gibson told the Belfast News Letter a Scottish Commission would be biased and counterproductive, and using hate crime legislation would be fairer. He said: “We think it would be a bad idea. It sustains division and here it used to reward the threat of violence. “Parading by-and-large is a cultural activity of the Protestant community, thereby any body created to look at parades by extension has a bias against that community. “Whereas hate crime legislation applies to all intolerance and bigotry, irrespective of race, creed or gender. We believe there’s enough laws to do with antisocial and hate crime. “A Parades Commission only introduces another layer of unnecessary and unhelpful bureaucracy that encourages intolerance.” Writing for The National, Dornan said: “Most of us will remember the annual battles at the Garvaghy Road and other places throughout Northern Ireland, so why don't we see this on our screens every year anymore? Because, not without some initial pain to be sure, they introduced a Parades Commission. “I'm not saying this is a magic bullet; what I am saying is that it's worth looking at calmly. Moreover, for the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would fear it. Let's be clear here, in a democracy, people have the right to assembly and free speech. “However, places of worship and other important places also have the right to be respected.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 There has to be room for compromise. Encourage them to focus more on the “walk” part and less on the “orange” part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 There has to be room for compromise. Encourage them to focus more on the “walk” part and less on the “orange” part. Money off vouchers for treadmills? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 15 hours ago, Shandon Par said: There has to be room for compromise. Encourage them to focus more on the “walk” part and less on the “orange” part. Money off vouchers for treadmills? The treadmills could play a selection of their favourite party/march tunes as they use them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 15 hours ago, Shandon Par said: There has to be room for compromise. Encourage them to focus more on the “walk” part and less on the “orange” part. Like this idea. Make them march up a munro and they'll have not have the lungs to indulge the classic songs that go along with them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 More importantly the T20 world cup has started Scotland and Ireland have to fight their way past some other middleweights in the preliminary rounds to get a shot at the big guns but we're off to a good start with a narrow victory against Bangladesh which the BBC had the nerve to describe as a "shock". Papua New Guinea and Oman stand between us and the group stage proper and with the top two going through there may be a margin for error. Over in the other preliminary group it looks like a good day for green and a bad day for orange as Ireland are making quick work of chasing down the Netherlands 106. With all due respect to Namibia it's Sri Lanka who will be the bigger obstacle for the Irish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Watt and Greaves put on 51 for the 7th wicket off only 34 balls after Bangladesh had ripped through the top of the order relatively cheaply and Scotland looked to be on the edge of the abyss https://www.t20worldcup.com/video/2294841 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 More importantly the T20 world cup has started Scotland and Ireland have to fight their way past some other middleweights in the preliminary rounds to get a shot at the big guns but we're off to a good start with a narrow victory against Bangladesh which the BBC had the nerve to describe as a "shock". Papua New Guinea and Oman stand between us and the group stage proper and with the top two going through there may be a margin for error. Over in the other preliminary group it looks like a good day for green and a bad day for orange as Ireland are making quick work of chasing down the Netherlands 106. With all due respect to Namibia it's Sri Lanka who will be the bigger obstacle for the Irish I'm not a great expert, but, would Bangladesh not be considered the most difficult opponent for us in the first stage, therefore having beaten them we are looking pretty good for the Super 12 already?As a wee aside, can someone please explain why the cricket/orange walk thread is one and the same? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, H Wragg said: I'm not a great expert, but, would Bangladesh not be considered the most difficult opponent for us in the first stage, therefore having beaten them we are looking pretty good for the Super 12 already? Pretty good but it's not in the bag yet We should beat Papua New Guinea tomorrow but we play Oman last. We're generally better than Oman but they have home field advantage. The risk is that we end up with 3 teams having won two games each and go out on run rate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Scotland batted first and got 165/9 Papua New Guinea are on 120 with 24 balls left PNG need almost 12 runs per over Victory looks safe but we could do with getting a move on just in case the run rate matters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 PNG finally bowled out whilst needing 18 off their last 4 balls. You would expect Bangladesh to beat Oman later today, but if not then we are through. If Bangladesh win against Oman then we need to beat Oman to avoid a RR tiebreaker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Scotland win by 18 runs with 3 balls left Which was conclusive but not the thumping that Oman dished out to PNG Oman play Bangladesh in half an hour. If Oman win that then they and Scotland are through If Bangladesh win then we will probably need a result against Oman Unless Bangladesh not only beat Oman but gub them, as then a close defeat against Oman would still see Scotland through 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) With Scotland losing 4 wickets in the last 5 balls and Brad Wheal not batting at all it's possible that we should have accelerated earlier Although it's an easy game from five thousand miles away Edited October 19, 2021 by topcat(The most tip top) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Bangladesh beat Oman but not be a great deal so realistically Scotland are going to have to beat Oman to win the group because we're not going through in 2nd Which means if we do go through then England avoid us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Unsurprisingly Bangladesh trounced PNG so Scotland vs Oman is an eliminator. It was looking a bit iffy Wickets in the 15th and 16th have strengthened Scotland's hand Oman are 103/6 with 18 balls to play. Scotland are probably going to be chasing about 130 to win the group 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 It's on Radio 5 Live if anybody else is interested 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 123 the total to chase. Being described as eminently reachable which gives me the fear. But if we do get there I assume it means we get to keep cricket? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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