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12 hours ago, Clown Job said:

A huge Orange march consisting of 35 bands will make its way around Edinburgh city centre this summer in celebration of the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee.

An application by The Loyal Orange Institution of Scotland to hold the controversial procession in the capital on Saturday, June 11, was one of three Orange order marches approved by the City of Edinburgh Council’s licensing committee.

Along with marches planned on June 4 and 25, they will be the first Orange walks held in the city since 2019, and will all use the Royal Mile as a key part of the route.

However, the parade to mark the Queen’s 70 years on the throne is set to be the largest — with the committee hearing that 35 bands or more could take over the centre of Edinburgh.

James MacLean, grand treasurer of the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland, told members at the meeting on Monday that the organisation has been conducting processions in Edinburgh since 1902.

He said: “These have always been conducted in  accordance with any instructions given by the police on the day, we have never envisaged any serious problems in connection with our processions.

“This particular one is to mark the Platinum Jubilee of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II and not for any other purpose.”

The committee also heard how the council has received a number of objections to the march going ahead.

However, a report said that the event, which it noted “may be considered controversial”, can only be banned or restricted to “prevent public disorder, risk to public safety, damage to property or excessive disruption to the life of the community”.

Conservative councillor Cameron Rose raised concerns about the potential impact of the procession on city centre traffic.

He said: “There is a difference this year to previous years in that the North Bridge is partially closed.

“My concern is the seizing up of the whole of the centre of Edinburgh, we’re talking about 35 bands, are we really talking about as many as that? I know we’ve got a noteworthy occasion but there will be people going about their businesses.”

Councillor Rose asked MacLean: “Have you any mitigation in relation to my concerns?”

MacLean responded: “There are vast roadworks all over the city of Edinburgh, it’s perhaps unfortunate that they all occur at the same time. We’ve suggested several measures to mitigate traffic disruption.

“It’s not our aim to disrupt traffic, our aim is to celebrate this jubilee.

“Every procession — whether it’s the Lord Mayor’s procession of the city of London or the Durham Minor’s Gala — will disrupt traffic.

“It is very unfortunate that this event occurs at a time that Edinburgh is vastly dug-up but we feel that our rights, our democratic right of freedom of peaceful public assembly, guaranteed in the common law of Scotland, the statute law of Scotland and the UK and the European Convention of Human Rights, would outweigh the undoubted inconvenience that is going to be caused to motorists.”

Councillor Rose assured MacLean there was “no question about the democratic right to demonstrate or to march or the occasion”.

He added: “It is simply of mitigation as best can be done of what will inevitably be huge congestion with in-particular the North Bridge being closed. Is that 35 bands, are you fairly confident that’s what you’re going to have?”

MacLean said the figure provided for the number of bands participating is “extremely unlikely to be exceeded”.

He added: “It may not, we will update Edinburgh Council and the police as the event organisation progresses as to attendance. There’s a possibility that there might be a number fewer bands than originally quoted. Our organisation, like many others’, has been mothballed for the best part of two years – it’s difficult for some bands to get up and running again.”

Green Party councillor Susan Rae asked if any “extra security” would be in place for the march.

PC Greig Stephen from Police Scotland’s Licensing Department said this was not currently deemed necessary, adding: “There’s no further intelligence to suggest that we need to bolster any resources.”

Edit: The fact the council seems more concerned about the disruption to traffic than what the OO stands for speaks volumes IMO

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12 hours ago, Clown Job said:

Edit: The fact the council seems more concerned about the disruption to traffic than what the OO stands for speaks volumes IMO

Seems that it's the Tories worried about the traffic implications and not the council?

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Seems that it's the Tories worried about the traffic implications and not the council?


I can’t claim to have a full understanding of how tories think but he’s probably more concerned about getting a wee snipe in about the SNP/Labour council not having opened the North Bridge on time

Which he’d like you to think is due to council incompetence and not the fact that the bridge is 125 years old and there was a pandemic
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3 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Absolutely fucking scum, every single one of them.

Sad, wee people who need to get themselves so far to f**k. The worst kind of lowlife p***ks.

 

Is that the Tories, the Cooncil or the march participants you're referring to ??  I'd include all three mate 

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4 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

 


I can’t claim to have a full understanding of how tories think but he’s probably more concerned about getting a wee snipe in about the SNP/Labour council not having opened the North Bridge on time

Which he’d like you to think is due to council incompetence and not the fact that the bridge is 250 years old and there was a pandemic

 

March them over the North Bridge to see if it takes the weight. If it doesn’t then some good has come of this.

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March them over the North Bridge to see if it takes the weight. If it doesn’t then some good has come of this.

Actually you might be onto something here the bridge would presumably still be fine for pedestrian traffic it’s buses and lorries that would be the problem

So if we were to just let them march up and down a bridge that was going to be shut anyway they wouldn’t be causing any extra disruption.

They would simultaneously be in the centre of the capital but out of the way
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An independent group has been established by the Scottish Government to review marches and parades in Scotland. 

The short life working group will bring together experts on marches, human rights, community engagement and mediation.

It comes after a commitment made in September last year to look at the issue following sectarian and anti-Catholic incidents.

Members of the group will now consider whether other models used to regulate marches, such as the Parades Commission in Northern Ireland, can be adapted and applied in Scotland.

A report with initial findings will be provided in the summer.

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See for a start, if you want to march through a city or town.

Everyone in that march should need to be at least a council tax payers of the area they’re disrupting. 

No more of this pish allowing bigot coming across from NI to march in Scotland 

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16 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

See for a start, if you want to march through a city or town.

Everyone in that march should need to be at least a council tax payers of the area they’re disrupting. 

No more of this pish allowing bigot coming across from NI to march in Scotland 

Hopefully they buy tickets on P&O ferries, maybe they will end up going round in circles in the Irish Sea while the new crews get to grips with the steering wheel.

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