MeadowArab Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 If we assume (for no obvious reason) that he's not going to make it at Sporting, why should the default alternative be going to England? Why not the Netherlands, or Germany, or France? He's already shown that he's not one of those typical Brits who can't bear living outside the Anglophone world. I agree completely. I remember in an interview with Jim Spence, he said that he always fancied going abroad as he thinks his style would be better suited in leagues outside of Britain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 27 minutes ago, Mccaughey85 said: Would prefer he was at a club getting starts, even if its the english championship. Just dont think sitting on the bench will do him any good, he will be 21 this season, has to become a starter soon or he might not turn out to be the great player we hoped, barry bannan has done well starting every week for sheff wed. You've, somewhat predictably, missed the point entirely. The reason he's given for not getting starts/game time yet is a lack of match fitness and not having had a pre-season with the club. Why would this suddenly not be an issue in what you consider to be a better league? I'm fairly certain that Gauld will get his chance to impress with Setubal this season, whether he does or not is another matter, but it's a good level for him to have a go at, and allows Sporting to keep an eye on him much more easily than if he was at Burton Albion or something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I don't understand why people think game time in the Championship will develop him? Training with players with real technical ability advances you more than playing with absolute cloggers. He's already shown hes got a natural footballing brain anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 The English Championship is mediocre shite. Even our top league is probably better. Don't buy for a second that the Portugese top flight isn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just because they spend millions on utter shite, doesn't mean it's not utter shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 If you want to play switching places, fancy talking about the player of the year captain of the champions of the league? Snodgrass strolling it down there from walking out of our lower leagues? Dobbie being a success in the championship as well? Dembele scored a hat trick against, let's face it, a pretty gash team. You can pick and choose all you want. Like Daryl Murphy being shite here despite being consistently a good player at Championship level at England. Do we need to go on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I'd imagine the top six counterparts at the very least. They'd struggle to break the top few as they tend to be the decent sides there, but I'd fancy many of the better clubs in Scotland to break in below that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Saints would finish mid table championship. We are amazing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 There's plenty of examples of players who have gone from Scotland>Championship and vice-versa who've been more successful in one than the other. It's glaringly obvious to anyone who actually watches both regularly that the quality of football isn't the same though (admittedly it's difficult for people to watch lots of both). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Said this on another thread but what's the shame in a team like Motherwell, County, Dundee or even Aberdeen and Hearts not being as good on the park as championship teams? Some see it as an insult but some clubs in the championship are huge!!! Not one for putting our clubs down but the championship clubs in England are big big clubs with big big money. Birmingham/Villa/Newcastle/Leeds/Ipswich/Norwich/Cardiff/Sheff Wed/Forest/Wolves/Cardiff etc. I'd say every single one of them is bigger than any club in Scotland outwith Celtic and the Newco. They're all also much wealthier.Don't see why some see it as an insult to point out that these teams are better than the teams in our premiership? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troopio Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 the difference is money and also the fact England is massive country compared to ours. Are Rotherham a bigger "Club" than Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs, Dundee United? of course they aren't in Stature or History but they are in terms of status and location, that is just the circumstances nothing more nothing less. Players have a short career, if Rotherham, using them purely as an example, offer you 10k a week and gives you a shop window to do well to get to better things then you will take it, It honestly annoys me why some get so worked up about it only to then want to gloat when player A, B or C Fails and comes home however for that there is always Player X, Y, and Z who do well as alluded to earlier. It is all down to the Individual and circumstances at the time as to whether they will do well or not, some may do it straight away, some never, some after a few years! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 18 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said: Said this on another thread but what's the shame in a team like Motherwell, County, Dundee or even Aberdeen and Hearts not being as good on the park as championship teams? Some see it as an insult but some clubs in the championship are huge!!! Not one for putting our clubs down but the championship clubs in England are big big clubs with big big money. Birmingham/Villa/Newcastle/Leeds/Ipswich/Norwich/Cardiff/Sheff Wed/Forest/Wolves/Cardiff etc. I'd say every single one of them is bigger than any club in Scotland outwith Celtic and the Newco. They're all also much wealthier. Don't see why some see it as an insult to point out that these teams are better than the teams in our premiership? Spot on litchie, there also being snapped up by foreign investors left right and centre hoping to land them in the prem 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 On 20/09/2016 at 15:36, Randy Giles said: The English Championship is mediocre shite. Even our top league is probably better. Don't buy for a second that the Portugese top flight isn't. tell me you're trolling? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 17 hours ago, KingQuerrey said: The English Championship is vastly overrated shite. still miles ahead of the scottish premiership 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 tell me you're trolling? Nope. They have and spend big money but mostly on mediocre shite from each other. People are mistaking having money for being good. That's not the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Said this on another thread but what's the shame in a team like Motherwell, County, Dundee or even Aberdeen and Hearts not being as good on the park as championship teams? Some see it as an insult but some clubs in the championship are huge!!! Not one for putting our clubs down but the championship clubs in England are big big clubs with big big money. Birmingham/Villa/Newcastle/Leeds/Ipswich/Norwich/Cardiff/Sheff Wed/Forest/Wolves/Cardiff etc. I'd say every single one of them is bigger than any club in Scotland outwith Celtic and the Newco. They're all also much wealthier.Don't see why some see it as an insult to point out that these teams are better than the teams in our premiership? Sorry lichtie.But the fact you refer to 'championship' teams in your first sentence as opposed to 'English championship teams' says it all. Media has us all thinking this way and that feeds the problem -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 the English championship is not shite, nor is it full of small clubs, this season youv got 2 former European cup winners in it. there is some dross around the bottom half that have access to the tv riches just for being there but youv got to admit that at least 10 clubs maybe more are bigger than anything outside the old firm up here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 People are mistaking having money for being good. That's not the case. I'm not. Giving a genuine opinion on players and teams, not on the money they have, money does have an influence though, obviously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the snudge Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Give teams like Aberdeen the same budget as some of the Championship sides down south and they'd do okay 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Give teams like Aberdeen the same budget as some of the Championship sides down south and they'd do okay Of course they would But even without the money from the TV these clubs make a fucking fortune by themselves in comparison because of their fan bases and crowds, Aberdeen would probably still have a lower average attendance than the clubs I've mentioned. Not sure with how them or Hearts would even compare in that league overall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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