renton Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) and I just noticed you posted a table without a source. Did you make that yourself or...? No it's someone elses, includes all polls up until rhe ipsos mori one just done, which would appear in the upper right hand quarter Edited March 4, 2014 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 No it's someone elses, includes all polls up until rhe ipsos mori one just done, which would appear in the upper right hand quarter Who is someone else? Can you provide a link? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Wow! Sanctimonious or what? I'm thinking too of what's best for my children and generations to come. Having considered all of the pros and cons, I believe we should stay as a strong part of the United Kingdom. If you think otherwise then fine, but to describe 'your average No voter' as selfish is nonsense. If you think your kids are better served by the UK then thats fine, but please dont describe it as 'strong' its politically weak, same with being able to make decisions economically too. We arent a strong part of the UK and never will be. Wether or not thats better or worse for your kids is up to you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Who is someone else? Can you provide a link? Someone making a graphical representation of the poll of polls that appears on the 'scot goes pop' blog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Someone making a graphical representation of the poll of polls that appears on the 'scot goes pop' blog Ah ok. ' A pro independence blog by James Kelly ' Now I'm not surprised you never cited the source in the first place TBH. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Ah ok. ' A pro independence blog by James Kelly ' Now I'm not surprised you never cited the source in the first place TBH. Whatever, in this case he's not trying to bring new data to the table, merely collating the already available data. Thats icm, pb, yougov, tns, angus reid and ipsos. Take from it what you will 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Will be serving in the armed forces come September and will be based in England, the burd thankfully will be getting telt to take her rightful duty as a proxy voter. She doesn't know it yet but she'll be voting "aye"... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Will be serving in the armed forces come September and will be based in England, the burd thankfully will be getting telt to take her rightful duty as a proxy voter. She doesn't know it yet but she'll be voting "aye"... My wife doesn't realise I've made up her mind yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Good to see the No's getting all antsy at my musings. Joozy with his usual word salad, Lex with his predictable comeback. As you were gentlemen, as you were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 My wife doesn't realise I've made up her mind yet. My Mrs was a staunch no at first. Thankfully she has seen the light. Tbh she didn't know wtf she was talking about, havering about not having a mail, police or fire service and her employer moving away so once presented with the facts she was easy enough to convince 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 My Mrs was a staunch no at first. Thankfully she has seen the light. Tbh she didn't know wtf she was talking about, havering about not having a mail, police or fire service and her employer moving away so once presented with the facts she was easy enough to convince Your Mrs sounds superb, tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Whatever, in this case he's not trying to bring new data to the table, merely collating the already available data. Thats icm, pb, yougov, tns, angus reid and ipsos. Take from it what you will The 'arc of prosperity' blog guy tried this nonsense as well and it was breathlessly reported on here multiple times by the ncc. I think he plotted lines that had Yes overtaking No by now. Strangely not seen an update on how thats working out for a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 The 'arc of prosperity' blog guy tried this nonsense as well and it was breathlessly reported on here multiple times by the ncc. I think he plotted lines that had Yes overtaking No by now. Strangely not seen an update on how thats working out for a while. Yeah, except this guy's methodology is sound, it's a line, with all the No leads from the various polls, plotted by month. What's not to like about that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Yeah, except this guy's methodology is sound, it's a line, with all the No leads from the various polls, plotted by month. What's not to like about that? So when do these lines converge? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 So when do these lines converge? Assuming a perfectly linear trend, then Yes will be 5-7 points behind on referendum day, thus needing a swing of about 2.5-3.5% when the DKs have to make a decision. It's not enough, and Yes need to accelerate the rate at which they cultivate votes, but that's possible - there is no innate physics that decides that the trend should be linear, it could slow down, speed up, go logarithmic, bottom out..... all it does serve to show is that when looking at the big picture, Yes have made some progress, eliminating a quarter of the No vote lead in a six month spell from September to now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joozy Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 My wife doesn't realise I've made up her mind yet. My Mrs was a staunch no at first. Thankfully she has seen the light. Tbh she didn't know wtf she was talking about, havering about not having a mail, police or fire service and her employer moving away so once presented with the facts she was easy enough to convince Well thank goodness these lucky, lucky ladies have a man about the house to put them right. Women, know your limits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Well thank goodness these lucky, lucky ladies have a man about the house to put them right. Women, know your limits. More word salad from Joozy. No mention of Kool-Aid this time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I am a no-voter and I consider myself looking at the "big picture" We're not talking about the pop-up ones in the Scottish Labour manifesto champ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bojangles Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Just filled in a big survey for Yougov. Asked a lot of good questions, but I noticed a question about a successful no vote and how confident I was on whether there would be lots of new powers; a few new powers or no change. Nothing about stripping powers. Still, I got to say I hated Nick Farage, so that was fun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I think it will be incredibly close. Anyone saying it will be a landslide for either side is quite simply over-confident. I think it will be a 52% - 48% for either side. We could run a book on the %s - I'd say the split will be 57% No 43% Yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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