Confidemus Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Your local fast food joint will provide straws for yoh to clutch at Fo' shizzle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Are you an ice hockey goalkeeper? Cos you're damn good at deflecting things! #badumboomtsch #mrbairnchatuplines 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The words of the week this week are- Vile. Fascists. Accent fascists. Cretin. Barrowman. Identity fascist. And Terranatctal. All brought to you courtesy of the NO contingent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Are you an ice hockey goalkeeper? Cos you're damn good at deflecting things! #badumboomtsch #mrbairnchatuplines 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Nothing will change my opinion. If you class the UK as your country GSTQ is your national anthem, the English and Welsh are not foreign and London is the Capital. If you class Scotland as your country then FoS is your anthem, Edinburgh is your capital and the English and Welsh are foreign countries who are in a political Union with you. Can't have it both ways, that's just stupid and anyone looking in from the outside would think the same. Nothing anyone says will change my mind and If that makes me a vile Ethno Nat then so be it. Far from alone in thinking this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 What's a posters forum? I probably did mock you, but I'm aiming it at No voters (and Ad Lib lulz) so it's allowed. there should have been a "on this" between posters and forum The panalbase poll today, is being compared to a panalbase poll commissioned by the SNP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The words of the week this week are- Vile. Fascists. Accent fascists. Cretin. Barrowman. Identity fascist. And Terranatctal. All brought to you courtesy of the NO contingent. Yup. John Barrowman was certainly a creation of the resident Unionists.... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Nothing will change my opinion. If you class the UK as your country GSTQ is your national anthem, the English and Welsh are not foreign and London is the Capital. If you class Scotland as your country then FoS is your anthem, Edinburgh is your capital and the English and Welsh are foreign countries who are in a political Union with you. Can't have it both ways, that's just stupid and anyone looking in from the outside would think the same. Nothing anyone says will change my mind and If that makes me a vile Ethno Nat then so be it. Far from alone in thinking this. My thoughts on this. The Uk is indeed a Political Union. England & Wales are foreign Countries. Great Britain is a strip of land shared by England, Wales & Scotland and is part of an Island group known as The British Isles. We are nationals of whichever Country within this political union we come from. We are all citizens of The UK. We are all British in the same way that Norwegians, Danes and Swedes are all Scandinavian. I'm a UK citizen by virtue of the political union that currently exists between my country and others, by this same token, I am also European. I'm British by virtue of the fact that my Country (Scotland) shares a landmass known as Great Britain, situated within a group of islands known as The British Isles. I'm Scottish because Scotland is the Country of my birth and where I chose to live. I don't believe we have to be either Scottish or British and it can only be one or the other. Regardless of the outcome of this vote, I will still be Scottish and I will still be British. I hope to no longer be a citizen of The United Kingdom though. There is nothing wrong with being or being called an Ethno Nat. To me an Ethnic Nationalist in the context of Scotland's independence, is simply, someone who believes in Scottish independence, who happens to be of Scottish birth or/and bloodline. Why should this be perceived as insulting. I consider myself ethnically Scottish but certainly have no problem considering, non ethnic Scots to be allowed to consider themselves Scottish too. People who have chosen to make this Country their home and show respect for our culture and way of life are most welcome. All this type of shit just deflects from the real issues. I often think that it would have been better if the Scottish National Party had been called the Scottish Independence Party. Nationalist has been a very mis-used word. Edited July 27, 2014 by Taza 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 All this type of shit just deflects from the real issues. I often think that it would have been better if the Scottish Nationalist Party had been called the Scottish Independence Party. Nationalist has been a very mis-used word. It's a good job their not actually called the Scottish Nationalist Party then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The UK is far more than a "political union". A political union would be something like the EU. The UK is a sovereign state 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The UK is far more than a "political union". A political union would be something like the EU. The UK is a sovereign state International law defines sovereign states as having a permanent population, defined territory, one government, and the capacity to enter into relations with other sovereign states. ^ 4 countries in a political Union. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Erm it literally has all of those things. Try again. (Unless you want to tell me that Denmark, Spain, the States, Australia, Germany and Switzerland aren't sovereign states) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 It's a good job their not actually called the Scottish Nationalist Party then. Whoops Continually being called and referred to as The Nationalists has had a sub-conscious bearing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 My thoughts on this. The Uk is indeed a Political Union. England & Wales are foreign Countries. Great Britain is a strip of land shared by England, Wales & Scotland and is part of an Island group known as The British Isles. We are nationals of whichever Country within this political union we come from. We are all citizens of The UK. We are all British in the same way that Norwegians, Danes and Swedes are all Scandinavian. I'm a UK citizen by virtue of the political union that currently exists between my country and others, by this same token, I am also European. I'm British by virtue of the fact that my Country (Scotland) shares a landmass known as Great Britain, situated within a group of islands known as The British Isles. I'm Scottish because Scotland is the Country of my birth and where I chose to live. I don't believe we have to be either Scottish or British and it can only be one or the other. Regardless of the outcome of this vote, I will still be Scottish and I will still be British. I hope to no longer be a citizen of The United Kingdom though. There is nothing wrong with being or being called an Ethno Nat. To me an Ethnic Nationalist in the context of Scotland's independence, is simply, someone who believes in Scottish independence, who happens to be of Scottish birth or/and bloodline. Why should this be perceived as insulting. I consider myself ethnically Scottish but certainly have no problem considering, non ethnic Scots to be allowed to consider themselves Scottish too. People who have chosen to make this Country their home and show respect for our culture and way of life are most welcome. All this type of shit just deflects from the real issues. I often think that it would have been better if the Scottish Nationalist Party had been called the Scottish Independence Party. Nationalist has been a very mis-used word. Scarily close to the words I was away to type. Saved me the bother. 1320 Lichtie is dead wrong with his approach, I'm sorry dude but its a load of shite. I will never ever support a "Team GB" and find it utterly odd that other Scottish people could but I wouldn't decry them for that choice even if I didn't agree with it. I see "Britishness" the same way I see myself as a "European" it's an almost irrelevant part of my identity that I pay no credence to. I'm Scottish through and through, I absolutely fucking love my country and I want it to do as well as it is capable of doing outwith the treaty of union 1707, I firmly believe Scotland has a thousand fold more to offer the world away from the governance of Westminster. I love my country dearly and I'm happy to admit I'm a nationalist but my form of nationalism doesn't mean I view my country as being "better" than others, I just love it the most. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The UK is far more than a "political union". A political union would be something like the EU. The UK is a sovereign state A political union and union of crowns. Personally, I'd ditch the witch too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The UK is far more than a "political union". A political union would be something like the EU. The UK is a sovereign state The U.K is a unitary state. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Erm it literally has all of those things. Try again. (Unless you want to tell me that Denmark, Spain, the States, Australia, Germany and Switzerland aren't sovereign states) That's what I was meaning...... How can that definition still just not be 4 countries in a political union though? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Scarily close to the words I was away to type. Saved me the bother. 1320 Lichtie is dead wrong with his approach, I'm sorry dude but its a load of shite. I will never ever support a "Team GB" and find it utterly odd that other Scottish people could but I wouldn't decry them for that choice even if I didn't agree with it. I see "Britishness" the same way I see myself as a "European" it's an almost irrelevant part of my identity that I pay no credence to. I'm Scottish through and through, I absolutely fucking love my country and I want it to do as well as it is capable of doing outwith the treaty of union 1707, I firmly believe Scotland has a thousand fold more to offer the world away from the governance of Westminster. I love my country dearly and I'm happy to admit I'm a nationalist but my form of nationalism doesn't mean I view my country as being "better" than others, I just love it the most. Don't be sorry. Just my views, I don't think everyone will agree with them mate. Be no fun if it was like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Don't be sorry. Just my views, I don't think everyone will agree with them mate. Be no fun if it was like that. Well just be careful who you view your views to. It's not helpful to the debate marginalising people who might otherwise vote Yes if they weren't put off by the idea that everyone who is voting yes, were crazed ethno-fascist-cybernats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The U.K is a unitary state. the UK is a urinary state 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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