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I'll be voting Yes, but I'm certainly not confident of a win. The polls might be out but they're a better guess at what's happening than most other possibilities, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few last minute No switchers. I reckon it'll pan out something like 46/54 No - close enough to not bury the issue and maybe have another referendum in 20-odd years, but no more than that.

I think it will be marginally closer than that - 53/47. I've always had that figure in mind, but I didn't expect us to arrive at it in the same way.

I thought Yes would narrow the gap much earlier than they did, but with a far less steep curve than has happened. Will still lead to the same end result, but I saw it more in terms of being this close because many No voters wouldn't bother their arse to go out and vote, which I don't think will be the case now.

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This might have been covered already, but in the Quebec referendum in 1995 the Yes campaign turned an 8% deficit into a 6% lead in the eight weeks or so before the vote, and then lost it by just over 1% when the vote came in.

Obviously it's a different country with different factors at play, but to some degree or another it hints at previously-intended Yes voters opting for the status quo once they got to the ballot box.

I'll be voting Yes, but I'm certainly not confident of a win. The polls might be out but they're a better guess at what's happening than most other possibilities, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few last minute No switchers. I reckon it'll pan out something like 46/54 No - close enough to not bury the issue and maybe have another referendum in 20-odd years, but no more than that.

It's true we can't ignore previous referndums, but at the same time, different actors with different demographics,different socio-economic factors, different policy issues and 20 years of global change means theres a limitation as to how much read across from Quebec you can have.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/leisure/11098848/Betfair-pays-out-early-on-Scottish-independence-No-vote.html

' Betfair is so confident about a No vote on Thursday that it is already paying out to those who have staked money on it '

Interesting.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/leisure/11098848/Betfair-pays-out-early-on-Scottish-independence-No-vote.html

' Betfair is so confident about a No vote on Thursday that it is already paying out to those who have staked money on it '

Interesting.

posted this in the independence forum and even as a no voter, this sounds nuts regarding how close the thing is :lol:

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posted this in the independence forum and even as a no voter, this sounds nuts regarding how close the thing is :lol:

It's a 6 figure sum they're paying out. Remarkable really, they must be more confident of a win than I am, and I'm extremely confident.

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This might have been covered already, but in the Quebec referendum in 1995 the Yes campaign turned an 8% deficit into a 6% lead in the eight weeks or so before the vote, and then lost it by just over 1% when the vote came in.

Obviously it's a different country with different factors at play, but to some degree or another it hints at previously-intended Yes voters opting for the status quo once they got to the ballot box.

I'll be voting Yes, but I'm certainly not confident of a win. The polls might be out but they're a better guess at what's happening than most other possibilities, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few last minute No switchers. I reckon it'll pan out something like 46/54 No - close enough to not bury the issue and maybe have another referendum in 20-odd years, but no more than that.

Happy to be corrected, but I don't think Quebec has ever been an independent country, and it seemed to be more about getting more powers than anything else. They essentially were voting for Devo max and when it was promised to them at the last minute they took it, something I believe they've lived to regret.

Scotland has a stronger national identity, and I think that means it is less likely yes voters will change their mind in the last few days of the campaign. Many don't believe a Devo max is enough.

That's not me predicting a yes win though. I genuinely have no idea.

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Conspiracy?

Nah. As I alluded to in another thread, it's publicity. The odds have always been so ludicrously short on a No vote, they've probably made next to no net loss.

Nothing is changed. Still all to play for. Still going to be a Yes win.

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Nah. As I alluded to in another thread, it's publicity. The odds have always been so ludicrously short on a No vote, they've probably made next to no net loss.

Nothing is changed. Still all to play for. Still going to be a Yes win.

Would be a tiny price to pay if it was subsidised by the UKG though.

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Would be a tiny price to pay if it was subsidised by the UKG though.

Golng by the horrendously underhand campaign they've run so far, I genuinely wouldn't put it past the UKG/ BTUKOK to subsidise a bookie to pay out on a No vote in an attempt to get some psychological ground.

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It's a 6 figure sum they're paying out. Remarkable really, they must be more confident of a win than I am, and I'm extremely confident.

I see bet fair have decided it's all over: now paying out on a no vote.

I'm really suspicious of this. They couldn't wait THREE days?

Conspiracy?

'The Bureau’s investigation into Tory party funding has revealed that, in addition to extensive donations from the City, the party has received substantial contributions from Edward Wray, co-founder of Betfair, and aviation tycoon Michael Bishop among others.'

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com...e-square-mile/

Just doing his bit for Queen and country, and probably a knighthood.

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'The Bureau’s investigation into Tory party funding has revealed that, in addition to extensive donations from the City, the party has received substantial contributions from Edward Wray, co-founder of Betfair, and aviation tycoon Michael Bishop among others.'

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com...e-square-mile/

Just doing his bit for Queen and country, and probably a knighthood.

And there you go. That took all of 10 minutes to unravel that little story.

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