Mr Bairn Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 You are making a total c**t of yourself. What? Why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 What do you mean? Thinking religion is poison is a crime? Because imo religion is the biggest problem in the world. Mr Bairn in 5 simple steps 1. write something outrageously stupid/provocative/offensive 2. wait for the condemnation 3. take one non controversial point from the original offensive pile of effluence and express wonderment that anyone should see the problem 4. sit and giggle and tickle yourself at getting the reaction 5. rinse and repeat On the off-chance that you do actually mean all of this; condemnation of the Israeli Govt is not support for Hamas believing that the current assualt on Gaza is a war crime is not support for Hamas support for the peopleof Gaza is not support for Hamas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 There's a difference between having a problem with Islam and having a problem with Muslims themselves. I'm perfectly fine with the ones that live here and join us all down the pub at the weekends, I don't particularly like the ones that drive cars into Glasgow airport or try to kill my friends by firing rockets at their house. It's become trendy to dislike the Jews though. Makes me sad. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^bigot^^^^^^^^ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I see an opinion poll from Wales supports Scotland's independence by 63 to 37. They'll be the next to leave GB after us and they don't even have whisky or kilts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I see an opinion poll from Wales supports Scotland's independence by 63 to 37. They'll be the next to leave GB after us and they don't even have whisky or kilts. Gonna need to link us to that poll. I'm not sure if they want us to go for it as a trial run for themselves, or they just want fucking rid of us. Either way, the only way Wales would ever be independent in my lifetime is if every other part of the UK declared independence and left them on their own. A mere puppet state of the English. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Gonna need to link us to that poll. I'm not sure if they want us to go for it as a trial run for themselves, or they just want fucking rid of us. Either way, the only way Wales would ever be independent in my lifetime is if every other part of the UK declared independence and left them on their own. A mere puppet state of the English. Or the Welsh have woken up to the change it would bring to UK polotics that the rUK would like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I see an opinion poll from Wales supports Scotland's independence by 63 to 37. They'll be the next to leave GB after us and they don't even have whisky or kilts. That's surprising as a poll from back in February has Welsh support for Scottish independence at less than 20%. As for your claim they'd be next to leave Great Britain (Great Britain?.. Is Wales going to float away or something?...), only 5% backed Welsh independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/results-welsh-economy-straw-poll-7517780 Wales would be fine on their own. They're not the international power house we are but to say that they are too stupid to manage their own economy is wrong. WM on the other hand.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Mr Bairn in 5 simple steps 1. write something outrageously stupid/provocative/offensive 2. wait for the condemnation 3. take one non controversial point from the original offensive pile of effluence and express wonderment that anyone should see the problem 4. sit and giggle and tickle yourself at getting the reaction 5. rinse and repeat On the off-chance that you do actually mean all of this; condemnation of the Israeli Govt is not support for Hamas believing that the current assualt on Gaza is a war crime is not support for Hamas support for the peopleof Gaza is not support for Hamas Big difference between the condemnation of the Israeli government and condemnation of Israelis themselves. I'm not exactly keen on the Knesset and find myself supportive of a two state solution. The problem is that the British left wing (not a purely Scottish problem) automatically support the Islamic side of whatever argument is going on at the time for want of being PC. There's always something going on: the West invading Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya, Israel and Gaza, India and Pakistan, al-Qaeda attacking the West, Iran's nuclear weapon program. Basically whatever wee tiff is happening, the far left will side with whatever side is predominantly Muslim for the sole reason that they don't want to be seen as islamophobes. It's the same kind of logic employed by CND types who would literally rather die themselves than see someone killed by a British nuke. The war crime stuff is a funny one. I mean, in ww2 our RAF carpet bombed Dresden, we had our Dambusters out firing bombs into Germany, these guys are seen as heroes these days. Many German civilians died but Neville Chamberlain and Winston Churchill were never seen as war criminals. Yet British forces kill some Afghan civilians and the left wing want to put Tony Blair's head on a spike. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/results-welsh-economy-straw-poll-7517780 Wales would be fine on their own. They're not the international power house we are but to say that they are too stupid to manage their own economy is wrong. WM on the other hand.... Do they even have a fucking economy? Sheep prostitution and above average rugby asides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Winston Churchill was a total fanny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Do they even have a fucking economy? Sheep prostitution and above average rugby asides. What a twat you are Mr Bairn. You forgot brass bands and all male choirs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 That's surprising as a poll from back in February has Welsh support for Scottish independence at less than 20%. As for your claim they'd be next to leave Great Britain (Great Britain?.. Is Wales going to float away or something?...), only 5% backed Welsh independence. You should be allowed an opinion. On anything. In an iScotland, I'm going to book you into a good Scots hospital to be de-opinionated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 You should be allowed an opinion. On anything. In an iScotland, I'm going to book you into a good Scots hospital to be de-opinionated. So you're only pro-democratic when the opinion is something you agree with? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Any sign of this poll? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Any sign of this poll? It'll come out before the debate starts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 So you're only pro-democratic when the opinion is something you agree with? Democracy clearly has it's flaws, when you're allowed to vote in the Scottish referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Democracy clearly has it's flaws, when you're allowed to vote in the Scottish referendum. There were lots of ways to define who should be given the vote. I think in the end, they just opted for the easiest and cheapest. Looking at it now, I'm of the opinion that there perhaps should have been a minimum residency period - say 10yrs - applied to those not born in Scotland. It does seem strange that someone just here for a couple of college terms, short work contract or otherwise here on a short term basis, should have a say on an issue with such long term consequences for the Country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 There were lots of ways to define who should be given the vote. I think in the end, they just opted for the easiest and cheapest. Looking at it now, I'm of the opinion that there perhaps should have been a minimum residency period - say 10yrs - applied to those not born in Scotland. It does seem strange that someone just here for a couple of college terms, short work contract or otherwise here on a short term basis, should have a say on an issue with such long term consequences for the Country. ESPECIALLY someone who is only voting No because they support Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Will be interesting to see how the performance from either side of the debate tonight will impact on the latest odds at the Bookies http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/scottish-independence/referendum-outcome Would have expected a little more momentum for a Yes vote by now and by guaging some of the noise on sites like P&B! Seems like its on the drift again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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