Mr Bairn Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Are you actually suggesting that the Yes campaign are on equal footing with Better Together on the scaremongering? The ONLY argument the No campaign have put across is one of fear. Not one positive message has been given on why we are Better Together. The Yes campaign, however, have focussed on all the positive points of independence and about what can be achieved. I'm afraid that's stone cold fact. And that's how every yes/no referendum works. It's the job of the yes side to put across why we should be independent, and the no side to explain why being independent is not a very good idea. Why does everything need to be "positive" campaigning? It's not about "fear" it's about pointing out the flimsy points in the yes argument. This referendum has only 2 options, so an argument against one side is inherently an argument FOR the other side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 And that's how every yes/no referendum works. It's the job of the yes side to put across why we should be independent, and the no side to explain why being independent is not a very good idea. Why does everything need to be "positive" campaigning? It's not about "fear" it's about pointing out the flimsy points in the yes argument. This referendum has only 2 options, so an argument against one side is inherently an argument FOR the other side. A positive case for the union would be nice. Or even negatives backed up by facts and not bullshit would be good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Or even negatives backed up by facts and not bullshit would be good. "It means if you vote No you could end up with Farage in a Westminster government" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 A positive case for the union would be nice. Or even negatives backed up by facts and not bullshit would be good. "ATOS have driven hundreds of thousands to depression and suicide" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 "ATOS have driven hundreds of thousands to depression and suicide" f**k me, you really are H_Bs wee lapdog arent you, beginning to think you are one of the same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 HB, do you ever look at the likes of Mr Bairn and previously (well, maybe) Dee Gas and even consider that you're almost definitely wrong about Independence? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 HB, do you ever look at the likes of Mr Bairn and previously (well, maybe) Dee Gas and even consider that you're almost definitely wrong about Independence? I could ask you the same question abut the AUFC90s and Baxter Parps of this world.... Though unlike DeeGas and Mr Bairn, who are deliberately trolling, i think they are seriously that thick, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Oh I cannot wait my friend. Enjoy your mental breakdown on the 19th. How's about the most recent poll ? http://www.yesscotland.net/news/new-poll-yes-47-strong-majority-would-vote-yes-indyref-if-better So 40% of people are more interested in flag waving. Even if they knew they'd be better off under independence 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 "It means if you vote No you could end up with Farage in a Westminster government" Interesting.... Run along now Mr Sadact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I could ask you the same question abut the AUFC90s and Baxter Parps of this world.... Though unlike DeeGas and Mr Bairn, who are deliberately trolling, i think they are seriously that thick, The irony meter on my phone has went through the roof. Run along now my little troll. No one cares about what you have to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Exhibit A 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I could ask you the same question abut the AUFC90s and Baxter Parps of this world.... Though unlike DeeGas and Mr Bairn, who are deliberately trolling, i think they are seriously that thick, I've read plenty of stuff that's made me physically cringe posted by Independence supports on here and I've read a lot of good arguments and interesting perspectives. Bit of a mixed bag. Just actually think about the nutcases that agree with you It must hurt a little. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Just actually think about the nutcases that agree with you It must hurt a little. Again, likewise. Just think.. "I'm in lockstep agreement with AUFC90". I mean, the guy needs an instruction manual to tie shoelaces. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Again, likewise. Just think.. "I'm in lockstep agreement with AUFC90". I mean, the guy needs an instruction manual to tie shoelaces. If that's meant to be funny, it failed spectactularly. Nice copying of Vikington with "lockstep", btw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 If that's meant to be funny, it failed spectactularly. Nice copying of Vikington with "lockstep", btw. It's cute, really, how the Clown Collective think that words they don't properly understand can be copyrighted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 It's cute, really, how the Clown Collective think that words they don't properly understand can be copyrighted. That's plenty, you parse-hole. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Are you actually suggesting that the Yes campaign are on equal footing with Better Together on the scaremongering? The ONLY argument the No campaign have put across is one of fear. Not one positive message has been given on why we are Better Together. The Yes campaign, however, have focussed on all the positive points of independence and about what can be achieved. I'm afraid that's stone cold fact. Was checking my calendar to make sure it wasn't 1st April. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Was checking my calendar to make sure it wasn't 1st April. Care to highlight anything you think that's incorrect about my post? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Care to highlight anything you think that's incorrect about my post? "The Yes campaign, however, have focussed on all the positive points of independence and about what can be achieved." They have quite happily put the boot in negatively when they saw fit. In fact I would argue that it happens a lot. It's almost a joke now. The standard argument is "X is being caused by Westminster. But if you vote for independence X won't happen". But then failing to explain why. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 PS To the post above. I do believe BT do have a problem putting forward a positive case - not because there isn't one but because, in referenda, being negative (especially for a No campaign) is usually effective. That being said I would say that BT are perhaps not being subtle enough in that negativity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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