Baxter Parp Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 This story? http://archive.today/wcaO3 It clearly wasn't made up, given the Beeb are quoting him from their own show. Again, disagreeing with something being reported doesn't mean it was made up. He's on record as saying the BBC misreported and they had to change the story three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 don't use gendered insults peeps, it makes you sound like a right c**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Are you speaking generally or speaking about a specific story? Generally. If the media is biased (and it is) who will investigate the campaign's lies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 don't use gendered insults peeps, it makes you sound like a right c**t. Does that mean my wife can't call me a stupid p***k anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Does that mean my wife can't call me a stupid p***k anymore? you have literally millennia worth of male privilege backing you up, so its fair enough for your missus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 you have literally millennia worth of male privilege backing you up, so its fair enough for your missus. I hope you're being either ironic, sarcastic, or some mixture of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 It's simply more attempts to portray us as an evil band of nutjobs marching around with skinheads and flags with white swastikas on a blue background on them. Yeah. I really don't think it is working either. The Middle Englanders who live on every word the Mail says may lap it up but everyone knows it's just a silly little ploy. True there are nutjobs on both sides, but some of the so called abuse is laughable. "Cybernat" or "Cabernat" (copyright Ms R Davidson) has simply become a badge of honour. I wonder what the Daily Mail and the likes would make of this place if they ever come across it? HB and Mr Bairn would be held up as shining examples of the poor abused souls that the evil cybernat bullies prey upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 This story? http://archive.today/wcaO3 It clearly wasn't made up, given the Beeb are quoting him from their own show. Again, disagreeing with something being reported doesn't mean it was made up. BBC Northern Ireland website, 2 May 2014: “Former NI First Minister Lord Trimble has said the biggest threat to peace in Northern Ireland would be if Scotland were to vote for independence.” Lord Trimble on “Good Morning Scotland”, 3 May 2014 “I want to correct what you said… [the website] reported me as saying that would threaten the peace process. I did not say that, that is not my view. Actually, a Yes vote in Scotland would reinforce the argument against violence, because it’s a demonstration of how you can achieve major change through the political democratic process.” Ah well, can't win em all, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 If an SNP backbench mother had claimed her kids had been threatened then this conversation would never have happened. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 If an SNP backbench mother had claimed her kids had been threatened then this conversation would never have happened. Disgusting. If, If, If... If your team weren't shite they'd be playing Hibs tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 Evidence? Cara Hilton campaigned to become an MSP on a platform of keeping a local primary school open. She then, as a councillor, proceeded to vote to close the very same school. She IS a proven liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 which brings us back to the press - do you think these papers are So unthinking, so Gung Ho in their support for the union that they will print things without evidence? Certain papers, yes. But in this case, all they need to do is report Cara Hiltons claims and they can just stand back and say "we were just reporting what she claimed and not claiming it actually happened". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 Because of the context. Whilst Nicola Sturgeon is a confirmed liar politically, if she were to claim she'd received a threatening phone call, I would be inclined to believe her. Likewise, given that the threats were made against her children, I do not believe Hilton would invent that. If your kids were threatened, wouldn't you make sure you keep any evidence of it and go straight to the polis? I just find it a tad abnormal that Cara Hilton's first reaction is to go to the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Certain papers, yes. But in this case, all they need to do is report Cara Hiltons claims and they can just stand back and say "we were just reporting what she claimed and not claiming it actually happened". Exactly. Which is exactly what they have done. Without a single shred of evidence to back up Hilton's claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 As you say all.politicians are liars. Cara has previous for telling incredible lies What incredible lies has Cara Hilton told? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 And it was years previously. What made it worse was that he made a big song and dance about the "vandalism", but then quickly shut his mouth when it was proved to be nonsense by Campbell etc. I think he said something along the lines of, "I can take personal abuse but this is getting out of control". So he lied. We've also had a situation where Anas Sarwar accused a "cybernat" of racial abuse. IIRC the tweet was racist but there was no proof or context in the message that the account holder was a supporter of independence. It's simply more attempts to portray us as an evil band of nutjobs marching around with skinheads and flags with white swastikas on a blue background on them. You didn't answer the question before. Is Nicola Sturgeon a "lying bitch"? Or do you reserve your "bitch" comments for only certain women who lie and not all? Yes or No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Cara Hilton campaigned to become an MSP on a platform of keeping a local primary school open. She then, as a councillor, proceeded to vote to close the very same school. She IS a proven liar. Izzat so? She voted for a budget, not for the closure of the school. "The decision on the future of Pitcorthie will we made at the Council Executive on the merits of the case – and I believe there is an extremely strong case to keep Pitcorthie open. Pitcorthie Primary is a popular, highly sustainable school, it's full to the brim and it's in an area where the number of young families is growing by the day". "I will continue to work alongside the Pitcorthie parents in their campaign to save Pitcorthie Primary School and hope that those involved in scrutinising the decisions will keep their minds open and listen to the views of parents and the local community". "I understand that the proposals on the future of Pitcorthie will go the Scrutiny Committee on March 18 and I will be writing to the Leader of the Council asking to attend and speak against any closure plan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 If your kids were threatened, wouldn't you make sure you keep any evidence of it and go straight to the polis? No. I wouldn't take threats made on Twitter seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 No. I wouldn't take threats made on Twitter seriously. Why would anyone threaten you? You're entirely unremarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 No. I wouldn't take threats made on Twitter seriously. But Cara Hilton apparently did. Well serious enough to go to the media about it, after she deleted the evidence of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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