strichener Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Just seen an article whereby Labour have stated that we are £1600 worse off than before the last general election. Story here:http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/budget-2014-labour-ramps-scathing-cost-living-campaign-1440875 What will this mean to my £1400 Union Dividend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Just seen an article whereby Labour have stated that we are £1600 worse off than before the last general election. Story here:http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/budget-2014-labour-ramps-scathing-cost-living-campaign-1440875 What will this mean to my £1400 Union Dividend? Shit! Didn't know that H_B would be working on a Saturday. So that he doesn't feel left out, I will simplify this for him. When the big number (1600) is bad and the little number (1400) is good then overall it is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Shit! Didn't know that H_B would be working on a Saturday. So the he doesn't feel left out, I will simplify this for him. When the big number (1600) is bad and the little number (1400) is good then overall it is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirToBreathe Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Change is not always for the goodI want my politicians to have good judgment, not blinded by one fanatical belief. Can i trust Alex Salmond? If it could be proven absolutely 100 percent that Scotland would be worse off breaking from the UK, would Mr Salmond and the rest of the SNP advise people to vote NO in the referendum? I think not. Politicians will alway put themselves and their party first. A yes vote to break from the UK would put the SNP in control of Scotland for many years. Working people are be more concerned about job security. Press releases from firms stating they would relocate, south of the boarder to England, in the event of a yes vote. A town loosing a large employer will have a knock-on effect on other businesses in the area. Local suppliers, spending in shops, restaurants, and entertainment will fall, reducing employment further. Investment in Scotland would also be reduced. International business wants security. A Scottish government would be a complete unknown. What tax and future laws would it make. It would be far safer to setup new business in an established EU country. Which ever way Scotland votes, the only certainty is, politicians will keep their jobs, but ....as for the man in the street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 And which country is a safe EU country they talk about? Is every business in the UK moving to Germany now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Change is not always for the good I want my politicians to have good judgment, not blinded by one fanatical belief. Can i trust Alex Salmond? If it could be proven absolutely 100 percent that Scotland would be worse off breaking from the UK, would Mr Salmond and the rest of the SNP advise people to vote NO in the referendum? I think not. Politicians will alway put themselves and their party first. A yes vote to break from the UK would put the SNP in control of Scotland for many years. Working people are be more concerned about job security. Press releases from firms stating they would relocate, south of the boarder to England, in the event of a yes vote. A town loosing a large employer will have a knock-on effect on other businesses in the area. Local suppliers, spending in shops, restaurants, and entertainment will fall, reducing employment further. Investment in Scotland would also be reduced. International business wants security. A Scottish government would be a complete unknown. What tax and future laws would it make. It would be far safer to setup new business in an established EU country. Which ever way Scotland votes, the only certainty is, politicians will keep their jobs, but ....as for the man in the street? Are you saying that it's better to stay with those who have been proven to be liars than it is to go with those who have not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Change is not always for the goodI want my politicians to have good judgment, not blinded by one fanatical belief. Can i trust Alex Salmond? If it could be proven absolutely 100 percent that Scotland would be worse off breaking from the UK, would Mr Salmond and the rest of the SNP advise people to vote NO in the referendum? I think not. Politicians will alway put themselves and their party first. A yes vote to break from the UK would put the SNP in control of Scotland for many years. Working people are be more concerned about job security. Press releases from firms stating they would relocate, south of the boarder to England, in the event of a yes vote. A town loosing a large employer will have a knock-on effect on other businesses in the area. Local suppliers, spending in shops, restaurants, and entertainment will fall, reducing employment further. Investment in Scotland would also be reduced. International business wants security. A Scottish government would be a complete unknown. What tax and future laws would it make. It would be far safer to setup new business in an established EU country. Which ever way Scotland votes, the only certainty is, politicians will keep their jobs, but ....as for the man in the street? Joined today 17.28. Shown to be a complete tosser today 17.28 Crawl back to your hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Change is not always for the good I want my politicians to have good judgment, not blinded by one fanatical belief. Can i trust Alex Salmond? If it could be proven absolutely 100 percent that Scotland would be worse off breaking from the UK, would Mr Salmond and the rest of the SNP advise people to vote NO in the referendum? I think not. Politicians will alway put themselves and their party first. A yes vote to break from the UK would put the SNP in control of Scotland for many years. Working people are be more concerned about job security. Press releases from firms stating they would relocate, south of the boarder to England, in the event of a yes vote. A town loosing a large employer will have a knock-on effect on other businesses in the area. Local suppliers, spending in shops, restaurants, and entertainment will fall, reducing employment further. Investment in Scotland would also be reduced. International business wants security. A Scottish government would be a complete unknown. What tax and future laws would it make. It would be far safer to setup new business in an established EU country. Which ever way Scotland votes, the only certainty is, politicians will keep their jobs, but ....as for the man in the street? IT IS NOT ABOUT THE SNP I'm getting fucking sick of these absolute bangers. 10 more days till we can be rid of the musings of their empty heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Change is not always for the good I want my politicians to have good judgment, not blinded by one fanatical belief. Can i trust Alex Salmond? If it could be proven absolutely 100 percent that Scotland would be worse off breaking from the UK, would Mr Salmond and the rest of the SNP advise people to vote NO in the referendum? I think not. Politicians will alway put themselves and their party first. A yes vote to break from the UK would put the SNP in control of Scotland for many years. Working people are be more concerned about job security. Press releases from firms stating they would relocate, south of the boarder to England, in the event of a yes vote. A town loosing a large employer will have a knock-on effect on other businesses in the area. Local suppliers, spending in shops, restaurants, and entertainment will fall, reducing employment further. Investment in Scotland would also be reduced. International business wants security. A Scottish government would be a complete unknown. What tax and future laws would it make. It would be far safer to setup new business in an established EU country. Which ever way Scotland votes, the only certainty is, politicians will keep their jobs, but ....as for the man in the street? Oh there is a surprise more scare stories..Don't you get nightmares about having to go outside by yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Change is always good I want my politicians to have good judgment, not blinded by one fanatical belief. Can i trust David Cameron? If it could be proven absolutely 100 percent that Scotland would be better breaking from the UK, would Mr Cameron and the rest of the bankers advise people to vote Yes in the referendum? I think not. Politicians will alway put themselves and their party first. A No vote to remain in the UK would put the Tories in control of Scotland for many more years. Working people are concerned about job security but know that the Scottish Govt will do its best to increase jobs. Press releases from firms stating they would remain, in the event of a yes vote. A town gaining a large employer will have a knock-on effect on other businesses in the area. Local suppliers, spending in shops, restaurants, and entertainment will rise, increasing employment further. Investment in Scotland would also increase. International business wants security. A Scottish government would be a complete success. tax and future laws would be made by the Scottish Govt. It would be far safer to setup new business in Scotland. Which ever way Scotland votes, the only certainty is, politicians will keep their jobs. Sorted that for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 IT IS NOT ABOUT THE SNP I'm getting fucking sick of these absolute bangers. 10 more days till we can be rid of the musings of their empty heads. Just because they have just woken up to the fact the union is about to be over, they seem to think that we have not thought it through. London media is the worst. How many times have you heard " do you think an iScotland will be able to " on any interview today? All this anti English pish that they keep bringing up is just them trying to justify what's going on. The very fact that they have no idea, really shows the lack of attention they have been paying to Scotland over the years never mind the last few months. If I was on the outside looking in, I would be starting to question which side would be the more interesting to watch. Scotland coping with being independent or rUK coping without Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The SNP based their economic predictions based on oil at $113 a barrel. I wonder what the current price of around $87 a barrel will do to their economic plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The SNP based their economic predictions based on oil at $113 a barrel. I wonder what the current price of around $87 a barrel will do to their economic plan? The opposite of when it's $139 a barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The opposite of when it's $139 a barrel. But it isn't. And its not likely to be either. Did you see the Saudi statement today for instance? No? Thought not. The entire SNP economic plan was based around a historically high oil price. It was fucking moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 But it isn't. And its not likely to be either. Did you see the Saudi statement today for instance? No? Thought not. The entire SNP economic plan was based around a historically high oil price. It was fucking moronic. Reynard, how many times are you going to post about economics and utterly fail? Two questions. 1. Given that the SNP were setting the date for Indy in 2016, how is today's oil price relevant? 2. What will the price of oil be on the propsed Indy date in 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Reynard, how many times are you going to post about economics and utterly fail? Two questions. 1. Given that the SNP were setting the date for Indy in 2016, how is today's oil price relevant? 2. What will the price of oil be on the propsed Indy date in 2016? Are you some sort of fucking moron? The SNP based their entire economic argument on oil at $113 a barrel All the shiny things they promised gimps like you were based on oil being that price per barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Are you some sort of fucking moron? The SNP based their entire economic argument on oil at $113 a barrel All the shiny things they promised gimps like you were based on oil being that price per barrel. Uh, huh. As I have stated on numerous occasions, you should keep away from anything to do with economics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidger Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Are you some sort of fucking moron? The SNP based their entire economic argument on oil at $113 a barrel All the shiny things they promised gimps like you were based on oil being that price per barrel. I dont think 75% of Yes voters believed there was going to be some eutopia and riches for all, the price of a barrel of oil was only pertinent to a very basic 'business plan' as it were. If Scotland had voted Yes, we would not be sailing off on some jolly with Salmond into oblivion and bankrupting ourselves. We would have had the following period within the safety net of the UK to work the figures more sensibly, before independence happened. Behind all the bluster and rubbish, from both sides, many great scottish talents came to the floor and gave very good accounts of themselves. Sadly as a country not enough saw the good of the debate and really didn't believe we could go our own way. I know a lot said they didn't like the BBC coverage, but i thought Pestons analysis was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I dont think 75% of Yes voters believed there was going to be some eutopia and riches for all, the price of a barrel of oil was only pertinent to a very basic 'business plan' as it were. If Scotland had voted Yes, we would not be sailing off on some jolly with Salmond into oblivion and bankrupting ourselves. We would have had the following period within the safety net of the UK to work the figures more sensibly, before independence happened. Behind all the bluster and rubbish, from both sides, many great scottish talents came to the floor and gave very good accounts of themselves. Sadly as a country not enough saw the good of the debate and really didn't believe we could go our own way. I know a lot said they didn't like the BBC coverage, but i thought Pestons analysis was excellent. Fully agree. It was never all about the oil. And we would be neither a rich socialist utopia, nor an economic basket case. In the next 10-20 years we'd be in a very similar state to where we are now - either a little bit better off, or a little bit worse off (depending on many variables). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Fully agree. It was never all about the oil. And we would be neither a rich socialist utopia, nor an economic basket case. In the next 10-20 years we'd be in a very similar state to where we are now - either a little bit better off, or a little bit worse off (depending on many variables). Aye and as a huge bonus, a lot of the most rancid, septic nut jobs of current Scottish society, would be living in Wales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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