Baxter Parp Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Plan C. Remember Plan A was inheriting membership automatically as a co-equal successor state. We're already on Plan B. Lying c**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The only people who think Scotland wouldn't get in the EU are complete morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Oh for f**k's sake. I'm literally cringing for you here. Is this one of your 38 voices you are hearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The only people who think Scotland wouldn't get in the EU are complete morons. Of course Scotland would get into the EU. When and under what conditions though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Plan C. Remember Plan A was inheriting membership automatically as a co-equal successor state. We're already on Plan B. It wouldn't matter to me if it was plan Z as long as we have viable alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Of course Scotland would get into the EU. When and under what conditions though..... I addressed that earlier in the thread, what is your opinion though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I addressed that earlier in the thread, what is your opinion though? My opinion is, if you think what Osbourne, Alexander and Balls said was bullying, be prepared for a proper arse spanking to gain entry to the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 My opinion is, if you think what Osbourne, Alexander and Balls said was bullying, be prepared for a proper arse spanking to gain entry to the EU. Nah, I think these guys are the best possible reason to vote YES, the more they try to bully the more impotent they seem to me. If we get an arse spanking we don't join, the people would never forgive a Scottish Government for joining on the wrong terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 It wouldn't matter to me if it was plan Z as long as we have viable alternatives. It matters in terms of credibility. Would you believe someone, or more pertinently vote for someone, who said "Right, the first 20 odd plans were baws (soz about that), but we're sure plan 26 is going to be fine". If the EU legal advice contradicts the SNP, are they going to adopt this week's bluster and bullshit line, or are they going to actually admit defeat and come up with a Plan C on the hoof? That's going to be interesting. Very interesting. I must admit, watching the SNP squirm is great sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 It matters in terms of credibility. Would you believe someone, or more pertinently vote for someone, who said "Right, the first 20 odd plans were baws (soz about that), but we're sure plan 26 is going to be fine". If the EU legal advice contradicts the SNP, are they going to adopt this week's bluster and bullshit line, or are they going to actually admit defeat and come up with a Plan C on the hoof? That's going to be interesting. Very interesting. I must admit, watching the SNP squirm is great sport. I was being a wee facetious about plan Z, my point is that there is a viable alternative. Can you direct me somewhere that I can read a bit more about this pending EU advice please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If we get an arse spanking we don't join, the people would never forgive a Scottish Government for joining on the wrong terms. Shouldn't any terms and conditions be put to a public vote before agreeing to join? Then we'd only have ourselves to blame if it we joined and then it went tits up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I was being a wee facetious about plan Z, my point is that there is a viable alternative. Can you direct me somewhere that I can read a bit more about this pending EU advice please? There's almost always a viable alternative. But when you put all your eggs in one basket, the fact that there are other baskets available once they smash isn't really great. http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-eu-to-outline-legal-advice-1-3298316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Shouldn't any terms and conditions be put to a public vote before agreeing to join? Then we'd only have ourselves to blame if it we joined and then it went tits up. Yep, if they differ substantially from our current terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 All politicians lie and misrepresent. But the real worlds is what the SNP were saying before say because politics trumps law maan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 All politicians lie and misrepresent. But the real worlds is what the SNP were saying before say because politics trumps law maan! If that was meant to be a critique of my earlier post can you explain it to me please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Half of Spain's fishing fleet fishes off Scottish coasts, there's no chance they'll endanger that. Under common agricultural policy, which is one of the few truly supranational legislative bodies within the EU, in that the CAP over-rides any contradictory domestic policy and legislation. The Spanish fishing fleet will continue to make hay, as it were, off Scottish coasts irrespective of what vote comes in the referendum, and if Scotland joins the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 What an absolutely devastating few days for the Yes campaign. Ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Under common agricultural policy, which is one of the few truly supranational legislative bodies within the EU, in that the CAP over-rides any contradictory domestic policy and legislation. The Spanish fishing fleet will continue to make hay, as it were, off Scottish coasts irrespective of what vote comes in the referendum, and if Scotland joins the EU. Are you saying that if Scotland wasn't an EU member the Spanish fishing fleet would be entitled to fish in Scotland's territorial waters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Under common agricultural policy, which is one of the few truly supranational legislative bodies within the EU, in that the CAP over-rides any contradictory domestic policy and legislation. The Spanish fishing fleet will continue to make hay, as it were, off Scottish coasts irrespective of what vote comes in the referendum, and if Scotland joins the EU. The point being that the Spanish can be told to get to f**k if we're bit in the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 What an absolutely devastating few days for the No campaign. Ah well. Ftfy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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