AyrshireTon Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 haven't read all 15 pages. has the langoliers been mentioned yet? Just the twice, I think. Three now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Some Aussie geezer on Channel 4 news tonight saying that even if the wreckage of the plane is found and the black box recovered, the cockpit voice recorder only records the last 30 minutes of any conservation with the pilots.. If the plane flew on for several hours before it crashed, with the transponder turned off, no one will ever know what happened in the cockpit and why the plane changed course. Kind of begs the question as to why all aircraft aren't fitted with some kind of external tracking device which would continually transmit info as to its direction and position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Some Aussie geezer on Channel 4 news tonight saying that even if the wreckage of the plane is found and the black box recovered, the cockpit voice recorder only records the last 30 minutes of any conservation with the pilots.. If the plane flew on for several hours before it crashed, with the transponder turned off, no one will ever know what happened in the cockpit and why the plane changed course. Kind of begs the question as to why all aircraft aren't fitted with some kind of external tracking device which would continually transmit info as to its direction and position. Some expert on Newsnight I think said the North Atlantic flights all have to have continual tracking, like most lorries and company vans do now, and that it was time for the rest of the world to follow suit. It's not complicated, probably just expensive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 My wife just watched a thing on ch5. I said that it was a nailed on certainty everyone was and has been dead for a long time, She said maybe "they are in a wee air pocket" Yup... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Next up for your missus, The Poseidon Adventure. That would freak her out. Having said that, the most reasonable outcome from all of this is that everyone is shark food. But not one of any of the "experts" on any channel has come on and said "this plane has crashed and everyone is dead" News channles have become more "entertainment" than ever, the creepy music sky plays over their coverage of this is ridiculous. Cnuts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Some Aussie geezer on Channel 4 news tonight saying that even if the wreckage of the plane is found and the black box recovered, the cockpit voice recorder only records the last 30 minutes of any conservation with the pilots.. If the plane flew on for several hours before it crashed, with the transponder turned off, no one will ever know what happened in the cockpit and why the plane changed course. Kind of begs the question as to why all aircraft aren't fitted with some kind of external tracking device which would continually transmit info as to its direction and position. I've watched loads of Air Crash Investigation documentaries and read a lot about this Malaysian plane and it's one thing that has always bothered me. Why would you spend between 250-350 million dollars on a Boeing 777 and only get a half an hour cassette to put in the recorder? My crappy android phone has got a better memory than the cockpit voice recorder and it cost about a 100 quid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I've watched loads of Air Crash Investigation documentaries and read a lot about this Malaysian plane and it's one thing that has always bothered me. Why would you spend between 250-350 million dollars on a Boeing 777 and only get a half an hour cassette to put in the recorder? My crappy android phone has got a better memory than the cockpit voice recorder and it cost about a 100 quid. But can it fly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 But can it fly? It flies really well, usually if I am playing poker on it and someone beats me with a 7-2 off suit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eindhovendee Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 1395445412669.jpg Jumbo Porn? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebhoy123 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I've watched loads of Air Crash Investigation documentaries and read a lot about this Malaysian plane and it's one thing that has always bothered me. Why would you spend between 250-350 million dollars on a Boeing 777 and only get a half an hour cassette to put in the recorder? My crappy android phone has got a better memory than the cockpit voice recorder and it cost about a 100 quid. It might just be as simple as " that was the technology at the time " when it was designed and it's never been changed.... ? I'm an engineer and I worked with a guy ( about 15 years ago ) who had worked on military aircraft - he said that a lot of the flight details were loaded via an old floppy disc drive - even although that was practically obsolete ( back in 2000 ) that was what they used as that was what had always been.... I don't imagine they change any parts on a aircraft unless they find it absolutely necessary..... Maybe simple as that ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 It flies really well, usually if I am playing poker on it and someone beats me with a 7-2 off suit. But when it hits the ground 239 people aren't missing... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I've watched loads of Air Crash Investigation documentaries and read a lot about this Malaysian plane and it's one thing that has always bothered me. Why would you spend between 250-350 million dollars on a Boeing 777 and only get a half an hour cassette to put in the recorder? My crappy android phone has got a better memory than the cockpit voice recorder and it cost about a 100 quid. It's a bit like the computers they send to Mars. Because they have to work 100% of the time in very extreme conditions, with nobody to fix them if they crash, they have to be very basic technology, not far up the scale from clockwork. Your android phone is more powerful than the computer on Mars Curiosity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Jumbo Porn?Flying to heaven on the wings of Challenger.Sleep well sweet silver princes of the air x 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Some Aussie geezer on Channel 4 news tonight saying that even if the wreckage of the plane is found and the black box recovered, the cockpit voice recorder only records the last 30 minutes of any conservation with the pilots.. If the plane flew on for several hours before it crashed, with the transponder turned off, no one will ever know what happened in the cockpit and why the plane changed course. That would still be useful though would it not !? If the pilots were still concious then surely they'd be saying something in that half hour like "Where the fluck at we ?" or "Is that a frying saucer ?" If a loss of cabin pressure has rendered them unconcious then the complete silence would be a tell tale sign !? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracowjambo Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 That would still be useful though would it not !? If the pilots were still concious then surely they'd be saying something in that half hour like "Where the fluck at we ?" or "Is that a frying saucer ?" If a loss of cabin pressure has rendered them unconcious then the complete silence would be a tell tale sign !? If they ever find the recorder all they will hear is BANZI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I'm beginning to side with the radioactive dolphin/seamonster/godzilla option. Fukishima ya bass!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHogg Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Some Aussie geezer on Channel 4 news tonight saying that even if the wreckage of the plane is found and the black box recovered, the cockpit voice recorder only records the last 30 minutes of any conservation with the pilots.. If the plane flew on for several hours before it crashed, with the transponder turned off, no one will ever know what happened in the cockpit and why the plane changed course. Kind of begs the question as to why all aircraft aren't fitted with some kind of external tracking device which would continually transmit info as to its direction and position. I dont think thats correct , I think he was referring to another recorder in the cockpit which records on a loop and not the black box. Though if I was the pilot and had a few seconds before crashing Id shout into the black box.... OMG..FLYING CATS??!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight minge Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I dont think thats correct , I think he was referring to another recorder in the cockpit which records on a loop and not the black box. Though if I was the pilot and had a few seconds before crashing Id shout into the black box.... OMG..FLYING CATS??!!! For the CVR, its legal minimum under FAA law for thirty minutes. The requirements in Asia could be more or less, no idea. The 'black box' is just a cultural reference. In fact there are thousands of individual 'black boxes' on a modern aircraft all doing a variety of different functions and most have nothing to do with recording data but to ensure the fly by wire systems operate and included many redunant systems. Chances are, even with 30 minutes, it should assist a great deal in solving the issue even if there are no voices recorded (obviously suggesting that the pilots would have been dead/unconcious) but the recording of the instrumation and engine noises would give a good idea along with the big explosion and splash as it hits the water. Why would the pilots be saying things like "where the fluck are we?" and "is that a frying saucer?" there Malaysian, not Chinese? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHogg Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 For the CVR, its legal minimum under FAA law for thirty minutes. The requirements in Asia could be more or less, no idea. The 'black box' is just a cultural reference. In fact there are thousands of individual 'black boxes' on a modern aircraft all doing a variety of different functions and most have nothing to do with recording data but to ensure the fly by wire systems operate and included many redunant systems. Chances are, even with 30 minutes, it should assist a great deal in solving the issue even if there are no voices recorded (obviously suggesting that the pilots would have been dead/unconcious) but the recording of the instrumation and engine noises would give a good idea along with the big explosion and splash as it hits the water. Why would the pilots be saying things like "where the fluck are we?" and "is that a frying saucer?" there Malaysian, not Chinese? why would they say it if theyre Chinese? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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