The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[kingjoey]

11 hours ago, AFCDannyFTH said:

Will be interesting to see how quickly changes are made. Milne has been McInnes' biggest supporter at the club and Americans don't f**k about when hiring and firing.

Glad to see Brown is being kept on as an ambassador. Skinner has been crucial in the evolution of the AFCCT so for him to continue in that role makes sense. 

Hopefully this is the start of us actually achieving something. 

You do realise that Dave Cormack isn’t American, don’t you?

[AberdeenHibee]

10 hours ago, red23 said:

Looking forward to joining up with these lads!

@Nelly78

[DukDukGoose]

Further Update:

 

https://www.afc.co.uk/2019/11/25/aberdeen-fc-and-atlanta-united-enter-into-strategic-partnership/

[AFCDannyFTH]

2 hours ago, kingjoey said:

You do realise that Dave Cormack isn’t American, don’t you?

Obviously. It's pretty clear that he's not going to be the sole influence in the boardroom. The yanks won't be chucking money at us to have no say in our performance.

[Dons_1988]

2 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

Further Update:

 

https://www.afc.co.uk/2019/11/25/aberdeen-fc-and-atlanta-united-enter-into-strategic-partnership/

Atlanta United could be disappointed when we reveal to them our knowledge of players across Europe.

[DukDukGoose]

25 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

Atlanta United could be disappointed when we reveal to them our knowledge of players across Europe.

Hahahahaha.

I took it to mean their investment is to improve the scouting etc. 

AMB Sports & Entertainment (the parent company of Atlanta United) is investing £2million into AFC as part of a new package of investment, led by Dave Cormack, totalling £5million. This will provide working capital for the Club’s day to day operations.

[Dons_1988]

7 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

Hahahahaha.

I took it to mean their investment is to improve the scouting etc. 

AMB Sports & Entertainment (the parent company of Atlanta United) is investing £2million into AFC as part of a new package of investment, led by Dave Cormack, totalling £5million. This will provide working capital for the Club’s day to day operations.

It does sound like that.

All seems great in theory but I always remain sceptical about these things.

[DukDukGoose]

Just now, Dons_1988 said:

It does sound like that.

All seems great in theory but I always remain sceptical about these things.

Yup. I don't doubt it's good that Milne is gone and can leave on a more positive note than was ever possible before but sometimes it is better the devil you know.

[naegoodinthedark]

Atlanta United could be disappointed when we reveal to them our knowledge of players across Europe.

The English lower leagues are in Europe*


* Correct at time of typing.

[Lofarl]

Will be interesting to see what happens both to Aberdeen and Hibs with Ron Gordon.  So far aside from the initial investment we’ve seen nothing on the playing side at Easter road.  Unless this guy just likes to buy teams starting with the letter A then perhaps we might see Aberdeen really crack on and be in the mix for titles soon.  Either that or it’s gonna be a Vlad with Hearts and Kaunas situation.

 

Actually can we have that?  Scottish football needs another bonkers chairman.

[DukDukGoose]

2 minutes ago, Lofarl said:

Will be interesting to see what happens both to Aberdeen and Hibs with Ron Gordon.  So far aside from the initial investment we’ve seen nothing on the playing side at Easter road.  Unless this guy just likes to buy teams starting with the letter A then perhaps we might see Aberdeen really crack on and be in the mix for titles soon.  Either that or it’s gonna be a Vlad with Hearts and Kaunas situation.

 

Actually can we have that?  Scottish football needs another bonkers chairman.

Looks like we're taking a boring, sensible route.

[red23]

6 hours ago, Sheep62 said:

Arthur Blank net worth is only $5.5billion apparently, so hardly going to miss this investment 

Arthur "Fires" Blanks

[Placida Domingo]

On 23/11/2019 at 15:10, fatshaft said:

I was told 3 weeks ago this change was happening, which sounded like utter shite but has been spot on. Also in that same chat I was told Cormack is no fan of mcInnes and he is on the proverbial shoogly. He'll have to up his game or he'll be oot

...as my source said, Wiggy was given an ultimatum, hand over or the money was off (allegedly). Hardball from Cormack, looks awfully like the plan was there all along, but he let him get the Training Complex up and running to at least leave with something as a legacy. Very interesting times upcoming for the Westhill Wanderers 

He's an idiot then, McInnes is the best Aberdeen manager since aferguson, has done an absolutely outstanding job, and the chances that Aberdeen could find a better manager are virtually zero.

[Placida Domingo]

15 hours ago, red23 said:

Looking forward to joining up with these lads!

That's the lamest thing I've ever seen.

[Dons_1988]

12 minutes ago, Placida Domingo said:

He's an idiot then, McInnes is the best Aberdeen manager since aferguson, has done an absolutely outstanding job, and the chances that Aberdeen could find a better manager are virtually zero.

Even as a supporter of Mcinnes I feel this is a dumb post. No offence.

[Placida Domingo]

Just now, Dons_1988 said:

Even as a supporter of Mcinnes I feel this is a dumb post. No offence.

None taken.  But I don't think anyone could seriously look at McInnes time in charge and disagree that it has been anything other than outstanding and a massive success.  And realistically the chances that Aberdeen could recruit a manager who could do better are vanishingly small.  

How could be do better?  Celtic have 6-7 times Aberdeens budget, Rangers have about five. Third is first for Aberdeen, that's winning the title. There's no chance Aberdeen or anybody will ever separate the old firm again, it's just not possible. Give my mum their budgets she finishes above Aberdeen.

[LondonHMFC]

2 minutes ago, Placida Domingo said:

How could be do better?  Celtic have 6-7 times Aberdeens budget, Rangers have about five. Third is first for Aberdeen, that's winning the title. There's no chance Aberdeen or anybody will ever separate the old firm again, it's just not possible. Give my mum their budgets she finishes above Aberdeen.

True, she does enjoy finishing on top. 

[Dons_1988]

1 minute ago, Placida Domingo said:

None taken.  But I don't think anyone could seriously look at McInnes time in charge and disagree that it has been anything other than outstanding and a massive success.  And realistically the chances that Aberdeen could recruit a manager who could do better are vanishingly small.  

How could be do better?  Celtic have 6-7 times Aberdeens budget, Rangers have about five. Third is first for Aberdeen, that's winning the title. There's no chance Aberdeen or anybody will ever separate the old firm again, it's just not possible. Give my mum their budgets she finishes above Aberdeen.

I do believe he's been a success and a hugely positive figure for the club, outstanding and massive may be going a little over the top though.

To give balance to your argument...In the current climate finishing third is meeting our objectives, it isn't similar to winning the title. And we did finish 4th last season behind Kilmarnock. We can't expect to finish above the OF but we can expect to have a level of consistency against the rest of the league which keeps us reasonably in touch. We can also expect that our efforts against those sides would be significantly better than they have been in our two pathetic attempts this season.

Cups have been positive in the number of finals/semi finals we've been in but there's been some noteable failures too.

But ultimately, he can't just be judged on historic achievements. He is the best we've had since Fergie but it's fair to say he is not performing to that level currently. It isn't healthy in any organisation for there to be a prevailing attitude of 'we can't do any better so we'll turn a blind eye to the fact they're under-performing'. People need incentivised to keep building on success.

I believe he can salvage it over time but others don't. There is no doubt things need to improve.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

2 hours ago, Merkland Red said:

Hahahahaha.

I took it to mean their investment is to improve the scouting etc. 

AMB Sports & Entertainment (the parent company of Atlanta United) is investing £2million into AFC as part of a new package of investment, led by Dave Cormack, totalling £5million. This will provide working capital for the Club’s day to day operations.

I'm presuming the whole thing has been set up to allow Atlanta to farm out their soft-as-f**k latinos (other ethic groups are available) to us, to have the shit kicked out of them by braindead journeymen that play for diddies like St Johnstone and Ross County. 

These 19 year olds from Tijuana and Guatemala City think they're hard coming out the barrios, but wait until they have a rainy Tuesday night at Hamilton in February.

 

[Placida Domingo]

2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

I do believe he's been a success and a hugely positive figure for the club, outstanding and massive may be going a little over the top though.

To give balance to your argument...In the current climate finishing third is meeting our objectives, it isn't similar to winning the title. And we did finish 4th last season behind Kilmarnock. We can't expect to finish above the OF but we can expect to have a level of consistency against the rest of the league which keeps us reasonably in touch. We can also expect that our efforts against those sides would be significantly better than they have been in our two pathetic attempts this season.

Cups have been positive in the number of finals/semi finals we've been in but there's been some noteable failures too.

But ultimately, he can't just be judged on historic achievements. He is the best we've had since Fergie but it's fair to say he is not performing to that level currently. It isn't healthy in any organisation for there to be a prevailing attitude of 'we can't do any better so we'll turn a blind eye to the fact they're under-performing'. People need incentivised to keep building on success.

I believe he can salvage it over time but others don't. There is no doubt things need to improve.

No offence but I think that's just the deluded self entitlement of a typical Aberdeen fan who thinks they're a big club when they're not.  Aberdeen are not underperforming, they're sitting third right now.  That's as good as they can possibly hope to be. 

They are three points clear at the top of the table right now, whilst rebuilding a team yet again.  That's absolutely outstanding from McInnes and in many ways he is a victim of his own success as he has raised expectations so far Aberdeen fans don't see that as good, when it's as good as it's ever going to get and as good as it's been for the last thirty years.

it's also completely unreasonable to say third is simply meeting your objectives, you have very very similar budget to Hibs and Hearts, less than a million in it, and they don't have the need to spend massively on infrastructure like you do. 

So to consistently finish above them every season and also everybody else too (Killie an outlier last season due to a fantastic manager) is top drawer and not simply meeting your objectives.  It's not reasonable to make your objectives always finishing above two clubs that have identical budgets to you and labelling it failure of you don't.  That's consistently overachieving if anything.