fasda2 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 34 minutes ago, Arnie said: Aberdeen appeal shinnie upheld xtra game rangers appeal red upheld no extra game that says it all Our appeal was frivolous. Theirs was staunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don exotic Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Our recruitment team seem to be in more demand than our players! Is this part of the model? Are we placing contacts across England for future sales and recruitment? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 North-east construction group Stewart Milne goes bust This have any impact on the Dons at all? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 19 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said: North-east construction group Stewart Milne goes bust This have any impact on the Dons at all? Not anymore I'd imagine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Cardle is Magic said: North-east construction group Stewart Milne goes bust This have any impact on the Dons at all? No reason that it would. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said: North-east construction group Stewart Milne goes bust This have any impact on the Dons at all? Not directly. It's probably a significant hit to the local economy but not all jobs affected are in the North East. They're not a sponsor or a loan creditor. Maybe they take hospitality? We do have loans from directors (accounts definitely say directors and not their companies) but I'd assume they're mostly from Cormack and Milne shouldn't be directly personally affected in any case. It's not good news in any way though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said: North-east construction group Stewart Milne goes bust This have any impact on the Dons at all? Nae mair wigs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said: North-east construction group Stewart Milne goes bust This have any impact on the Dons at all? Milne has been an absolute drain on Aberdeen FC, so from the clubs perspective, no. The quicker he’s out & off the FMB, the better. Absolute failure as a Chairman. Was Chairman as we racked up millions in debt, bailed out by a generous benefactor. Was responsible for the 11-1 vote remaining. Rimmed the hole of the vermin in 2012 with his “we need a strong ‘Rangers’ “ comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Thenorthernlight said: Milne has been an absolute drain on Aberdeen FC, so from the clubs perspective, no. The quicker he’s out & off the FMB, the better. Absolute failure as a Chairman. Was Chairman as we racked up millions in debt, bailed out by a generous benefactor. Was responsible for the 11-1 vote remaining. Rimmed the hole of the vermin in 2012 with his “we need a strong ‘Rangers’ “ comments. Can't defend the vote structure or the rimming, but "racking up millions in debt" needs context. Rangers debt fuelled stranglehold on the game had just been broken by an increasingly debt fuelled Celtic. Other clubs were ramping up spending beyond their income. Milne didn't go balls out for borrowing in the Setanta years and recognised the need for the debt to be manageable. We didn't go into admin like many smaller clubs (Motherwell, Dundee, Hearts) or die like larger competitors. We weren't relegated like the Embra and Dundee clubs. Structurally, Milne recognised the need to modernise the club and tried things, hiring professional Chief Execs and Directors of Football and gave an AIM listing a shot. I'm not trying to argue that he was a success, just that it could have been much, much worse. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 The ‘we need a strong rangers’ chat came when we were above them in the league and they just tried to take our manager. Just a fuckin stupid thing to say. Have to agree with @coprolite though, Milne is much maligned but he did drag us through one of the worst economic periods in Scottish football. Was unable to get us thriving clearly but he did keep the wheels turning at least. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 The biggest problem with Milne was finally finding an actual successful manager. Give him a bit too much control at a time he was checking out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 hours ago, coprolite said: We didn't go into admin Only because you lucked out with someone happy to bail you out. Aberdeen were in the same boat as the clubs you mention. Milne's tenure should have included a relegation in 2000 and could well have included an administration. He got jammy twice. Giving him credit for avoiding relegation and administration is like giving Rishi Sunak credit for cutting inflation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersand Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: Milne's tenure should have included a relegation in 2000 I'll take the hit on correcting this line this time round. It could have included a relegation. We were utter pish after all. We should have been in a three-team playoff with Falkirk and Dunfermline, but Brockville etc. etc. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Ampersand said: I'll take the hit on correcting this line this time round. It could have included a relegation. We were utter pish after all. We should have been in a three-team playoff with Falkirk and Dunfermline, but Brockville etc. etc. Milne oversaw a team with one of the biggest budgets in the country (so big they eventually needed a third-party bailout) finishing bottom of the league. That's not a chairman you give credit for avoiding relegation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersand Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, VincentGuerin said: Milne oversaw a team with one of the biggest budgets in the country (so big they eventually needed a third-party bailout) finishing bottom of the league. That's not a chairman you give credit for avoiding relegation. Don't worry, I wasn't. We scraped through that period, only marginally less badly managed than some other clubs. It's always seemed to me that Milne underwrote things - kept us going as others have said above - without ever investing properly in the club, which is one of the reasons our stadium is now falling to bits. I don't really know enough about the financial ins and outs, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubford don Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 24 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: Only because you lucked out with someone happy to bail you out. Aberdeen were in the same boat as the clubs you mention. Milne's tenure should have included a relegation in 2000 and could well have included an administration. He got jammy twice. Giving him credit for avoiding relegation and administration is like giving Rishi Sunak credit for cutting inflation. No matter how many times utter shite is said it never becomes the truth,brockville being a dump saved Aberdeen the inconvenience of a play off not relegation 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 1 minute ago, Dubford don said: No matter how many times utter shite is said it never becomes the truth,brockville being a dump saved Aberdeen the inconvenience of a play off not relegation You finished bottom of the league; you deserved relegation. We'll never know whether you'd have got what you deserved. Milne was a lucky guy who only escaped being known as the guy who ran Aberdeen into the ground (and the second tier) due to a couple of fortunate events. Had Hearts had someone prepared to pay off our debts in the early 2000s, it's likely neither of our subsequent relegations would have happened either. A James Anderson figure, if you will. Milne caught a huge break. A lot of folk seem to forget that. Edited January 9 by VincentGuerin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_blockhead Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: You finished bottom of the league; you deserved relegation. We'll never know whether you'd have got what you deserved. Milne was a lucky guy who only escaped being known as the guy who ran Aberdeen into the ground (and the second tier) due to a couple of fortunate events. Had Hearts had someone prepared to pay off our debts in the early 2000s, it's likely neither of our subsequent relegations would have happened either. A James Anderson figure, if you will. Milne caught a huge break. A lot of folk seem to forget that. Hearts fans are hilarious. Nearly went bust (same as your Sevconian cousins) due to years of proper cheating. James Anderson (the massive Jambo.. apparently) didn't even get involved when you were going bust post Romanov. You screwed over creditors. We paid ours properly. As for relegations. You've had plenty of them. You have had more seasons in the Championship than finishing above Aberdeen in the past decade. Outwith your Romanov cheating years you have won 1 trophy since 1963. That is your level. You can try deflect with nonsense about us being "bailed out" (i.e. paying off debts) / "deserved relegation") it's all just bollocks Apart from the fact relegation was not happening for finishing bottom (decided pre that season starting) we also knew months before the end of the season we wouldn't be in a play off so started playing youngsters instead. For someone who was banging on about not caring about football anymore not so long ago the anger and seeth you have for Aberdeen / Hibs and other teams is very funny 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, afc_blockhead said: Hearts fans are hilarious. Nearly went bust (same as your Sevconian cousins) due to years of proper cheating. James Anderson (the massive Jambo.. apparently) didn't even get involved when you were going bust post Romanov. You screwed over creditors. We paid ours properly. As for relegations. You've had plenty of them. You have had more seasons in the Championship than finishing above Aberdeen in the past decade. Outwith your Romanov cheating years you have won 1 trophy since 1963. That is your level. You can try deflect with nonsense about us being "bailed out" (i.e. paying off debts) / "deserved relegation") it's all just bollocks Apart from the fact relegation was not happening for finishing bottom (decided pre that season starting) we also knew months before the end of the season we wouldn't be in a play off so started playing youngsters instead. For someone who was banging on about not caring about football anymore not so long ago the anger and seeth you have for Aberdeen / Hibs and other teams is very funny What a poor post. Good day to you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Nobody is showering Milne with praise. I think the initial response was to him being referred to as a drain on the club. Not a fair accusation to level at him as for all his failings he did a hell of a lot in keeping our heads above water when things were desperate for just about everyone. And he did care about the club. Lucky re relegation is just a cheap one, clubs suffer luck and bad luck as a result of circumstances all the time in football. Hearts were ‘unlucky’ in their most recent relegation but it matters not. They were relegated. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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