Sparticus Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Just now, topcat(The most tip top) said: Sorry to have to break it to you but those aren’t dreams. They’re recent memories. Nightmares 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Hearts fans - "nobody is being pressured into giving the club money" Hearts FC - Feed me cash notes would be grand to help us fund our brand new stand Tbf they didn't have enough room for the 2nd verse. Once I've got all your money i'll double the price and give my brother the job Though he can't build for shit and he's a bit of a nob. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Hearts fans have been taken for mugs.How’s the AberDNA thing going? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Of course, the amount Hearts fans put in is amazing. I don't agree you should be the ones paying for the stand, nor do I believe the FOH should be denied the running of the club until they pay back a loan that wasnt given to them. Budge gives Hearts FC £3m and agrees to hand over club to fans once that's paid back. FOH recieve nothing. Hearts FC make £15m a season. Budge refuses to hand over club until FOH pay her £3m. It makes no sense. It’s complicated for us so it's hardly surprising that outsiders sometimes struggle to understand Edited May 24, 2020 by topcat(The most tip top) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrebleTwenty Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Just now, NJ2 said: How’s the AberDNA thing going? Going great guns buddy. 6000 DNA memberships as far, during a pandemic too. We got some nice shiny new players in January, without DNA this would never have been possible. Helped us secure Europe, that deffo beat's trips to recreation park & gayfield. AAhhh Croatia, well i acutely fancy a trip to Germany to watch my club play, that would be awesome huh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Going great guns buddy. 6000 DNA memberships as far, during a pandemic too. We got some nice shiny new players in January, without DNA this would never have been possible. Helped us secure Europe, that deffo beat's trips to recreation park & gayfield. AAhhh Croatia, well i acutely fancy a trip to Germany to watch my club play, that would be awesome huh?Don’t be obtuse. One day maybe you’ll be able to save up enough to move to your ramshackle big stand to Stonehaven. Must be very exciting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: Realistically the FOH could've taken charge at Hearts about 4 years ago, as Budge could easily have taken her loan money back out via the club, instead you've all sat back, watched her ruin your club due to some bizarre belief it was the FOH she loaned the money to so it's you who owe her that money. I'm quite willing to publicly admit that I and many other hearts fans may have been rather overoptimistic in May 2016 about what things would be like in 2020 although that probably goes for the roughly 7 billion people so it may be quite a long queue. The wisdom of extending the deal in order to build the stand can be questioned with hindsight, but at the time Budge, Levein and Nielson had hardly put a foot wrong. Edited May 24, 2020 by topcat(The most tip top) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: I'm quite willing to publicly admit that I and many other hearts fans may have been rather overoptimistic in May 2016 about what things would be like in 2020 although that probably goes for the roughly 7 billion people so it may be quite a long queue. The wisdom of extending the deal in order to build the stand can be questioned with hindsight, but at the time Budge, Levein and Nielson had hardly put a foot wrong. This is an important point. There was no reason not to have faith in the club's management at that stage. Ultimately, it's fine. Budge will be gone before long and she'll leave us with a well-funded club in a completed stadium (which we'd needed to do for fucking ages), and a good basis for being successful in the future. That's a result we'd have taken back in summer 2014. Mistakes have been made, but the club is on a sound footing and ultimately she'll be remembered as a hugely important figure in the history of the club. It's a shame we couldn't win the cup last year, as I think her and Levein's contribution post-admin would have been beautifully rounded off with something tangible. But that's fitba. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: The "unsustainable spending" was based on us not earning money from Cup runs or finishing in the top half. We finished top half and due to giving Celtic 3 stands, made enough from the Cup to make the spending sustainable. Club spends money - Club finds way to make money. I'd far rather St Johnstone milked moron OF fans by charging them an absolute shit tonne to attend games than exploit the home support. Giving the OF three stands makes it financially viable to continue letting U12s in free to games. Hearts want new stand - Hearts publicly claim the fans will build it, then steadily increase the price after fans have agreed to pay their share, while simultaneously demanding the fans pay back a loan to Budge despite the club earning more than enough to do that years ago. Realistically the FOH could've taken charge at Hearts about 4 years ago, as Budge could easily have taken her loan money back out via the club, instead you've all sat back, watched her ruin your club due to some bizarre belief it was the FOH she loaned the money to so it's you who owe her that money. You said Hearts were living beyond their means and built a stand they couldn't afford. Now it's "club spends money, club finds way to make money". Do you honestly believe St Johnstone and others haven't set up a similar scheme because they have some moral objection to... taking money willingly donated by the club's own fans? There is no "bizarre belief" about the Budge loan, only matters of fact. The FOH was set up to buy the club but that wasn't possible because it didn't have the capital to pay for the CVA - Budge was needed to provide that. She agreed to do that on the basis that the FOH would pay her back. If it hadn't, it wouldn't own the club, she would. That was the deal and remains the deal today. I've got plenty of problems with the FOH and its apparent inability to ask any questions of Budge's incompetent running of the club, but I don't have any problem with the principle. Would we really be in a better position just now if Budge had bought the club permanently (not that she offered to), we hadn't built a new, revenue-increasing stand and didn't have a substantial source of income at a time when we can't generate money by other means? I very seriously doubt it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, DC92 said: You said Hearts were living beyond their means and built a stand they couldn't afford. Now it's "club spends money, club finds way to make money". Do you honestly believe St Johnstone and others haven't set up a similar scheme because they have some moral objection to... taking money willingly donated by the club's own fans? It's a really weird point a few people seem to be arguing. "You should live within your means." "We do." "Well, we think you should have less money." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparticus Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Pet Jeden said: Oh the irony of posting this in the premiership thread lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sparticus said: Oh the irony of posting this in the premiership thread lol 7 hours to come up with this as a (second) reply? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrebleTwenty Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, NJ2 said: Don’t be obtuse. One day maybe you’ll be able to save up enough to move to your ramshackle big stand to Stonehaven. Must be very exciting. Is that the best you have got champ? Probably more chance of Farts visiting Stonehaven in a junior cup tie, when they free-fall down the leagues. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 GTF day can't come soon enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparticus Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: 7 hours to come up with this as a (second) reply? Pretty much worth it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 GTF day can't come soon enough.Absolutely agreed. Might be less piping hot banter from the championship boys. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Is that the best you have got champ? Probably more chance of Farts visiting Stonehaven in a junior cup tie, when they free-fall down the leagues. Is that the best you have got champ? Probably more chance of Farts visiting Stonehaven in a junior cup tie, when they free-fall down the leagues.Better spelling that time round, well done champ. And calling us “Farts” real comic masterstroke. That new stadium must be about done now though, aye? You’re funded by two millionaires after all. Ps, thank your buddy’s Atlanta for the six figure transfer fee for Jake Mulraney. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: 7 hours to come up with this as a (second) reply? Still a better strike rate than Uche Ikpeazu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I'll miss Heart, they're funny. who will we own next? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrebleTwenty Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, NJ2 said: Better spelling that time round, well done champ. And calling us “Farts” real comic masterstroke. That new stadium must be about done now though, aye? You’re funded by two millionaires after all. Ps, thank your buddy’s Atlanta for the six figure transfer fee for Jake Mulraney. Oh boy oh boy, I'm dealing with the grammer police. Chessy. Nope the new stadium is no-where near done > next. We have more than 2 millionaires, champ > next. We did thank them for some investment, that is how you do business. You should ask Budge's bro, he seems to know how to milk others for their own gains > next. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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