WeAreElgin Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Next he'll be telling us to dodge ticket inspectors on trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracowjambo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I never had a tv licence and got a £75 fine. I still don't have one and have not heard from them since. The fine doesn't appear on my PVG so I basicly saved half the price by accepting the fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealMaroon Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Feck it, direct debit cancelled. I do not understand why the BBC can not do what every other company have to do and advertise. That way they woud not need to rip off punters for nearly 150 quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's the scummy way they go about it that annoys me, I remember these adverts a few years back on the side of buses on a route that goes through said street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEETHING Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Right guys, here's the four-one-one. If you don't have a TV Licence: 1) THEY WOULD NOT KNOW. There are no "detector vans". They do not exist. Even if they did, it's highly unlikely that they would work with digital signals (as opposed to the old analogue ones), and even if they did, it's even more unlikely that they would be sufficiently accurate enough to pinpoint which household is emitting said signals, particularly if it's a block of flats. Most people just pay for a TV licence because they always have done. You can declare online that you don't need a TV Licence, and that'll be you sorted for a couple of years. Even if they bother coming round to check, it doesn't matter whether you've told the truth or not, because... 2) THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO ENTER YOUR HOME TV Licence "inspectors" have no more right to enter your home than I do. They aren't the police. Do not let them in. You don't need to tell them why. The only way they could get in is with a police officer who has a warrant, and even then... 3) THEY WOULD NEVER GET A WARRANT FOR ENTERING YOUR HOME I am a lawyer. I know about warrants. I have seen police officers seeking warrants for all sorts of shit, usually drugs searches. They need to go to a judge (Sheriff / Justice of the Peace, usually the latter). I have never heard of a warrant being sought for a TV Licence matter. It just does not happen. Even if an inspector went to the police and got them to seek a warrant, what would be their basis? "The boy never opened the door to us"? Any Sheriff or JP worth their salt would tell them to f**k off. It's not like TV where the cop goes "Let's phone the local judge" and just makes up a reason to get a warrant. They need evidence that a crime is being committed, which they will never have, because... 4) THEY CANNOT PROVE IT Even if you have a TV, so what? They would need to prove that you were using it to watch live TV without a licence. Live TV. Not a DVD, not catch-up etc. Take this to its logical conclusion, which is some sort of prosecution. What evidence would they have against you? Snooping in a window is probably the best evidence they could possibly have, and even then: ( a ) it would probably be uncorroborated, if it were just one person's word for it, and ( b ) there's no way in hell that they could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was live TV as opposed to a DVD or something. No way. That's why... 5) NOBODY IS PROSECUTED FOR TV LICENCE OFFENCES ANY MORE Trust me on this one. I am a defence lawyer. I have never had a client prosecuted for it. I also worked in the JP Courts (where this sort of thing would be prosecuted) for about six months, and among the thousands of cases I dealt with there was not one TV Licence prosecution. I have asked court staff this very question, and they have similarly not seen a prosecution for about a decade or more. It does not happen. The only people you see at courts for TV Licence stuff are those who invited "inspectors" in, admitted not having one and were issued a fine which they proceeded to not pay. All unpaid fines get taken through the courts eventually. So, in conclusion: 1) You are committing an offence if you watch live TV without a licence. 2) If you aren't stupid, if you commit this offence you will likely never be caught. 3) Even if you are "caught", they could never prove that you committed the offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I would happily pay £145 a year just for Radio 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I would happily pay £145 a year just for Radio 4. I happily pay the same just in the off chance that our Judith's twins pop a button and go on the lam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixed Donner Hoagie Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 who pays a tv licence these days lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I would happily pay £145 a year just for Radio 4. I happily pay the same just in the off chance that our Judith's twins pop a button and go on the lam. Ach you haven't a scooby about the joys of Radio 4. While I was shaving at 7.00 this morning Susan Rae read the news 'tits oot' and Mishal Hussain used that 10 minute interlude to set about Sarah Montague with a strap-on. FACT. The pictures are much better on radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Ach you haven't a scooby about the joys of Radio 4. While I was shaving at 7.00 this morning Susan Rae read the news 'tits oot' and Mishal Hussain used that 10 minute interlude to set about Sarah Montague with a strap-on. FACT. The pictures are much better on radio. It was 'taps aff' on Radio Scotland, but what put me off was it was Bryan Burnett. I'll stick to the telly, it's what I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreElgin Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Great post SEETHING, are you a lawyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Anyone know a lawyer on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I am a lawyer. I know about warrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEETHING Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Sorry - sounded like an arse there. I fucking hate TV Licence inspectors though, so deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz_the_Squirrel Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Just pay the fee you tight cants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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